The Vasyl Lomachenko vs Guillermo Rigondeaux prediction thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heerko koois, Nov 14, 2017.


Vasyl Lomachenko or Guillermo Rigondeaux ?

Poll closed Dec 9, 2017.
  1. Vasyl Lomachenko

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  2. Guillermo Rigondeaux

    28.2%
  1. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Egis Klimas:
    Today's @VasylLomachenko vs. @RigoElChacal305 Official Weigh-In will be televised live in U.S. from @TheGarden at 2 p.m. ET / 11 a.m. PT on ESPN2."
     
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  2. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    were GuillermoRigondeaux, RigoElChacal. ElChacalRigo and 1000 other variations already taken, that he had to add 305? I don't get them number people.
     
  3. FuMaster

    FuMaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe area code. Nate Diaz always says representing 209. Pit Bull is Mr 305 and he's from FL too. Compton rappers ...
     
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  4. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    right... still weird
     
  5. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    305 is indeed an area code for Miami, FL. I believe it's where he lives now.
     
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  6. Vanishing

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    Are you mentally ill?
     
  7. Mr Logic

    Mr Logic Member banned Full Member

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    Say the person with mike Tyson and Mariah Carey in his avatar saying "protect ya neck"
     
  8. HUMBLE

    HUMBLE New Member banned Full Member

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    [Sighs]
    I'm going to keep it all the way real,
    Even when,
    Most of you, have kept it all the way unreal with me.

    If you are rooting for Loma,
    You have confusion in your life.
     
  9. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. Vanishing

    Vanishing Member Full Member

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    I had that title before this avatar, they're not connected.

    Besides that, just because I want Rigo to win doesn't mean I don't like Lomachenko. Maybe step away from the computer a bit.
     
  11. HUMBLE

    HUMBLE New Member banned Full Member

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    Again,
    I'm going to keep it all the way real,
    Even when,
    Most of you, have kept it all the way unreal with me.

    If you are rooting for Loma,
    You have confusion in your life.
    This quote is evidence.
     
  12. Mr Logic

    Mr Logic Member banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko has reached the next level of this sport none has climbed in terms of ability. It might look like pity patty punches to the novice eye but every action causes a reaction which is why we call it he sweet science.
    You think he's doing that for show? Lol
    397 fights in the amateurs! 1 loss! You think he's doing this for fun?
    I'm sure you you can explain to lomachenko and his dad the intricacies of how to box because they are obviously getting it wrong.
    Lol you aren't educated enough to understand why he dominates world class boxers with ease.
    Why are the bookies making lomachenko favourite? Because when it comes to money people begin to see sense
     
  13. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Never really seen these guys....Loma round 10 stoppage.

    Though when they step in the ring I'm going to assume Loma will look like Andre the Giant and Rigo will look like Tattoo from fantasy island the way you guys are going about the size difference.
     
  14. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly don't think Rigondeaux has much of a chance. Lomachenko is bigger and younger.
     
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  15. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I've long considered both of them to be a little overrated. Neither guy is what I'd call a complete, thoroughly rounded fighter. They each operate within their own dimension, with a certain reliance on uncommon degrees of athletic talent, and the average contender will always find it difficult to avoid being sucked into those dimensions. Given that both men entered the pro ranks in states of near readiness for world contention, neither has an especially impressive résumé outside of their signature victories, Donaire and Russell Jr. respectively.

    Lomachenko doesn't fight nearly as effectively when pushed onto the back foot, but Rigondeaux's isn't a style that will hustle Loma into reverse gear and out of the centre of the ring. On the other hand, I've always felt that an educated, technical pressure fighter would cause Rigondeaux a lot of problems and have a great chance of beating him - while Lomachenko isn't the archetype I had in mind, he is a pressure fighter of sorts (a highly kinetic, waspish one) and possesses a clear size advantage, so the styles could tilt loosely in Lomachenko's favor here to begin with. Even with a reduction of his average output, he might be too busy and with too much variety for Rigo to avoid being outhustled, especially with the benefit of the doubt likely to be granted to the house fighter if rounds are competitive. Donaire always looked less wonderful when an opponent didn't bring the fight to him, but Lomachenko is much more industrious, vigorous and eager an initiator than Donaire ever was.

    Of the two, I do believe that Rigo possesses a keener sense of timing and a more refined grasp of the fundamentals of mid-to-long range fighting. Which needs to be the case, and by a significant differential, if he is to have a chance to win. But Rigo still relies on acute degrees of reflex and fast-twitch response to execute, and he needs them to be at their best here. It's reasonable to expect some decline in those areas when discussing a man around 40 years of age. We haven't seen much of him lately, just three rounds in two years. He's obviously no slouch now, but are those little degrees that matter on the higher levels all still intact? I'm not convinced. He doesn't have a big margin of error here so far as convincing judges to score rounds for him. He needs to be as sharp as he's ever been.

    Rigondeaux has been knocked down when caught out of position, situations which Lomachenko has the ability to replicate with his quick, angular movement. If Rigo gets caught like this, or if Lomachenko is able to exert a period of successful pressure upon him, how much does the size advantage of Loma bear on the Cuban's ability to recover, endure, survive, adjust?


    With the fight now only 24 hours away, it's still difficult for me to look past my initial forecast from a few weeks back;

    With that said, War Rigo. I'd enjoy an upset here.
     
    Last edited: Dec 8, 2017
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