This victory gives nothing to Lomachenko

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  1. Arpeggios

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    Due to being that skilled that no one wanted to touch him.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    This victory gave another no mas to Lomachenko.
     
  3. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I predicted a mismatch and domination by Lomachenko. You called me an idiot/hater.
     
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  4. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nope. Nice try. You predicted a demolition KO. I told you Rigo wasnt getting blasted.
     
  5. OvidsExile

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    You think he'd have lasted another six rounds like that if he hadn't quit? Just admit you were wrong. Compared to Lomachenko, Rigo is old, small, and slow and had no business being in the same ring last night. It wasn't ever going to be competitive and was a total mismatch. He should have fought someone like Easter, Linares, Flannagan, or Campbell if he wasn't going to fight Garcia. If Berchelt won't fight him, he could have fought Vargas who also fought last night. Fighting a guy that old and small is a waste of everybody's time.
     
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  6. Arpeggios

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    If this gives nothing to Loma I dread to think what beating THAT Klitschko & nearly getting splattered did for the superior Joshua!!! 40, inactive, coming off a loss, got dropped & out boxed for most of it loooolllll
     
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  7. The Kentucky Cobra

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    I'm not sure he would have, but that's what i predicated would happen.

    My prediction:

    "Unless Rigo has fallen off the bus completely, comes in a shadow of himself, anyone without a reach advantage or 20 pounds is going to have trouble demolishing him."

    "If Rigo is stopped it will be late after being worked over."


    Your prediction:

    "Knocking out a much older smaller fighter is like playing ****ing tee-ball. It's a cakewalk."

    "Lomachenko by KO."

    Ultimately neither one of us predicted a mid round corner retirement, but we looked to be on our way to seeing what I described "a late stoppage work over), not your cakewalk easy KO. So how the hell am I wrong? My beef was everyone knew Loma wasn't going to be blowing Rigo out early but people like you were calling that so you could critique when it didn't happen.

    And you are an outliner, it was an important fight and treated as such. No amount of bellyaching isn't going to change that.
     
  8. OvidsExile

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    It was an important fight if fighting your grandfather over a turkey leg at Christmas dinner is considered an important fight.
     
  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    An important fight in that it was between two long time upper tier P4P rated fighters.
    An important fight in that it was between two 2 time Olympic gold medalists, an historic first.
    An important fight in that it was between two men seen as rivals.
    An important fight in that it had been discussed for two years now.
    An important fight in that one man was an undefeated professional and had not lost any fight since 2003.
    An important fight that made mainstream headlines here in the states despite featuring two non-Americans, which is rare.
    An important fight in that Lomachenko has got considerable more mainstream media attention and acclaim.
     
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  10. NaiKoN

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    Cobra you are a moron if you think that it was just Lomachenko. You are keep speaking about some superiority like an idiot but you don't answer simple question how can you speak about superiority against someone who is not even trying to fight. Moreover Lomachenko didn't connect anything serious or showed anything extraordinary that would make Rigo to quit. It was so obvious that Rigo came for money and there was ZERO intention to fight.

    I don't understand how can you hype this fight. I would say it was even closer to a fixed fight with Rigo's poor acting.

    It terms of legacy it will go as a meaningless win against an old smaller guy, who was not willing to fight and who's notable win was only 4 years ago, who stayed mostly inactive and the fight that should have happened earlier.

    Arpeggios, Klitchko was fighting unlike Rigo and yes Joshua win against him will first of all be considered as a win against an OLD Klitchko.
     
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  11. OvidsExile

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    A fight between Kovalev and Inoue would be meaningless too because they are not remotely the same size.
    We've had dozens of fights between olympic gold medalists, just none of them had been dumb or lazy enough to stick around in the amateurs another four years to get a second medal. Maybe, it would mean something if they'd fought in the amateurs, but in the pro-ranks that's just a trivia question.
    I don't think they were ever seen as rivals. Rivalries are things like what Leonard and Hearns, Barrera and Morales, or Pacquiao and Marquez had: a series of fights, common opponents, etc.
    Two or three threads about it on a boxing message board does not make buzz. There were hundreds of threads about Pacquiao and Mayweather or Golovkin and Canelo.
    And he also hadn't been tested with a decent opponent since 2012. Undefeated records aren't as important as who you've fought. I'm sure that Rigo was a monster at his own weightclass in 2004, but at super featherweight in 2017 he was garbage.
    Pacquiao/Horn made headlines. You pretty much just have to put things on free tv to get that. Also, Golovkin vs Canelo made a lot bigger headlines, although neither of them is American, because it was a genuinely good match.
    He would have gotten that whoever he fought.
     
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  12. The Kentucky Cobra

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    Extreme analogies don't win arguments. You say something this stupid it just makes you look like
    you have some sort of brain deficiency where you can't distinguish the difference between 8 pounds and 50 pounds.


    Rather you personally feel it's irrelevant or not, the meeting between the two most decorated amateurs of all time after establishing themselves as top pros was a strong selling point of the fight and is the reason it had so much buzz.


    It doesn't really matter if they don't fit your personal "rivalry" criteria, people have wanted to see these two fight for at least two years now since it was originally being proposed. We know Loma wanted the fight and Rigo claimed he wanted it...

    I'm not sure even what you are going on about here.


    You are asking to be appealed to as an enlightened authority, and that just isn't going to happen. NO sport works that way.

    This was an anticipated fight among educated fans, even if Loma was expected to win convincingly. Your personal opinion isn't going to change that.

    Wow, just two whole fights with global superstars.

    You are just arguing against facts again. This was one of the more high profile and anticipated bouts of Loma's career thus far, and that can't really be denied.
     
  13. tinman

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    He was stopped though. Now you're just arguing semantics. Stoppages occur in a variety of ways. You can't make the count, the ref stops it, the corner stops it, the doctor stops, the fighter stops it, etc.

    These are at the end of the day a KO.
     
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  14. BundiniBlack

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    LOL. 4 years is 4 years no one is avoided for that long this was a joke of fight.
     
  15. BundiniBlack

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    His standing hadn't dropped? 0 significant wins in 4 years? It was meaningless from the beginning I wish I had a thread to link to but I have been posting more on reddit
     
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