I think rigo owes everyone an apology

I just don't understand why, Rd 1 was close and the most challenging round for Lomachenko since Salido imo. Rigo was doing something and looked like he could hang. Oh well.

 

No need to apologise. He's just follow the tradition.
People quit against Loma before

 

Loma explained this. In round 1 he was feeling Rigo out to see his game plan. He said he had figured Rigo out and was applying his own game plan by the end of round 2.

 

Rigo has faster hands and was able to stay in range In the 1st round, but from round 3 and onwards Loma kept Rigo on the outside after some useful advice from his father. I couldn't understand what Loma's father was saying to him after the 2nd round, but he looked extremely pissed.

 

Agreed on hand speed, but he should've adjusted with Loma adjustments... He didn't, or couldn't, or wouldn't.

 

Well, a dude here explains why, what was going on in Rd 1 and how Loma adapted:

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The matchmaker deserves some blame as well. I think that was a 400k performance.

 

nobody needs to apologise for a **** performance when they've moved up two weight divisions to face the best fighter in the world. i'd rather he apologised about that agbeko trainwreck, it still haunts my nightmares.

 

Let's just forget about that moron.

 

Why? Cause he broke his hand??? And fought one handed for 6 rounds.

 

It'd be nice if Rigo's defeat and abject surrender would engender some kind of future decorum or reserve on the part of the Cuban boxing school amateur-lover crowd -- let's cast our minds back to those 2012/13 boxing forum threads declaring this guy 'the most skilled boxer ever' -- and at the same time serve as an effective caution to the eastern bloc amateur-lover crowd who are making similar pronouncements about Loma now (granted, these are not mutually exclusive crowds, as some individuals who bear no demographic bias may belong to both). It won't engender anything of the sort, of course, but it'd be nice if it did.

The advance kudos lavished upon decorated amateurs from these hotspots has reached a silly degree. It's true that if a fighter possesses exceptional measures of physical talent, an extensive amateur career up into his mid-late twenties can give him a real (though still not complete) degree of headstart in the pros and allow him to be thrown in at world level and hold his own, a la Loma. But nothing really beats a solid, testing pro apprenticeship, which is becoming rarer and rarer. As such, the less athletically outstanding among those whose amateur careers extended into their mid-20's can end up suffering the fate of a Matvey Korobov, ie. padding a record and treading water at the lower levels until they get KTFO by Andy Lee trying to fight like an Adam Booth fighter, which means their glittering, wonderful, 300+ fight amateur career ultimately left them significantly less advantaged than some Mexican dude who turned pro as a boy and got his hands dirty with the nitty-gritty from early on (*cough*, Salido, *cough*). If you were considered a hot prospect at any time and you end up being KTFO by Andy Lee trying to fight like an Adam Booth fighter, you know something went badly wrong in your development.

Amateurism tends to linger like the stench of an exhumed coffin these days because pro apprenticeships in general have become diluted and shortened. Take Luke Campbell's fight with Yvan Mendy - the Frenchman gave him fits, but the issues were never really addressed, the defeat was treated like a sulphurous fart in a room full of polite company, they just steered him around and away from the kind of wrinkles that had troubled him in Mendy and got him into a title shot five fights later. Heck, some guys don't even get that much of a test out of their first fifteen fights. They don't master the finer points, don't get acquainted with all the wrinkles of the pro game, because the standard and variety of comp through their pro apprenticeship doesn't demand it of them. Then, unless they've been fortunate enough to have regular exposure to the kind of gym company that can teach them what they're not learning in their bouts, they step up a bit and come across guys who somehow learned to fight and it's game over. Even a super-talent from the ams whose superior gifts enable him to go straight in at the world level will only be insulated from that reality for so long before he's inevitably found wanting by a guy who's been learning his trade and has a belt full of tried and true tools (this happened to Loma sooner than it needed to, due to a combo of wantonly intrepid style-matching and miscalculation on Salido's state of decline). Because, and it bears repeating, nothing really beats a solid, testing pro apprenticeship.

I'd prefer to see guys turn pro around age 19-21 and get a real education, if only the educational standards of pro boxing weren't falling apart.

Forgive me if this sounds like a gloomy prognosis of where the sport is heading.

 

Yeah, it kinda sux, but what are you gonna do? Rigondeaux is an old man, he ain't getting killed in the ring. He was in the ring in the guy with a lot bigger stronger younger and fresher, why get killed? A lot of that "go out on your shield stuff" is for young guys.

It's like when Hopkins fought Kovalev, he realized quickly "this guy is too young and too strong" from about the 5th round on all he wanted to do was survive, and I guess he did.

Boxing has ****ed Rigondeaux for 25 years, and he ain't rich, now he's ****ed boxing back.

 

Which hand did he break? His corner claimed it was his right hand, then changed it to the left hand! How did he break it? Rigo did not land anything that could have broken it, did someone step on it? I have watched the fight several times and Rigo showed no signs of a broken hand, he was still throwing it in the 6th round!

By the way, Lomachenko was faster than Rigo, both hands and feet!!!!!!!

 

Are you serious? It was a feeling out round and Rigo landed zero punches. Marriaga did far better than Rigo.