Was Bobby Chacon a great fighter?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think I might be having a hard time separating between being one of the most greatest of all time in terms of in ring excitement with greatness as a fighter, in ability.

    So, I ask the forum the question. Was Bobby Chacon a great fighter? Did he flirt with greatness, or was he not even close? Love to hear some insight, thoughts, stories, so on and so for forth.
     
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I didn't live through the period, sadly, missing out on seemingly one of the very greatest generations of fights and fighters ever (Late 70's into the 80's.) So I can't rightly rate a lot of Chacon's resume. Just how highly should his win over Danny Lopez be held... the fact that he split fights with all sorts of fighters and styles, sometimes seemed inconsistent, was stopped twice against a past his best Olivares before finally getting a win against the faded great in a third fight...
     
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  3. mcvey

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    He was one of the most fan friendly fighters you could wish to see,I can tell you that much!
     
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  4. The Morlocks

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    I did live through it and Yes he was a great fighter who underachieved till after his prime. Bobby could fight with anyone his weight when in shape and focussed. And I mean anyone in history. His worst enemy was himself.
     
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  5. red cobra

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    Bobby was an exciting crowd pleaser...a thrilling, blood and guts type fighter of legend, but not a great fighter.
     
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  6. Russell

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    What were his biggest issues outside of the ring? Actually committing to the training, booze...? What was his story.

    Was he close, say a stones throw away? He seemed capable on his best night to be hell on wheels. His fight against Lopez comes to mind.
     
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  7. red cobra

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    It's debateable...of course...but yeah, he's close but I believe that the term "great" gets thrown around too much. He was a fight fan's dream all right....a much appreciated fighter, but I think more in the realm of "very good", but not great.
     
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  8. Russell

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    How about Olivares? Do you feel he's a great fighter?
     
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    Bobby was very good but not great as Red said. Drug and alchohol abuse did him no favors and very likely held him back notably.

    Olivares is a bonafide great.
     
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  10. PernellSweetPea

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    I wouldn't say great. Very exciting.
     
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  11. Saad54

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    It's hard to say because he never really fulfilled his potential when he was in his prime.

    He showed greater skills, but less dedication in his absolute prime.

    In his later years at 130 lbs he had a ATG heart but he wasn't as skilled as when he held the 126 lb title.

    I think he could have been great if he was more dedicated in his prime.

    He was very, very good and redeemed himself later in his career.

    He really had no business beating Boza-Edwards in the second fight. Boza was younger, taller, with a much greater reach, faster and had at least matching chin, punching power and proven stamina. Boza beat the shi% out of him in the early and middle rounds, and Chacon was bleeding all over the place - but Chacon had the heart to keep trying, and when Boza started to gas from his incredible work rate, Chacon had enough left to take advantage.
     
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  12. red cobra

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    Ruben Olivares was a great fighter...a certifiably great fighter.
     
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    Great fighter, yeah. ATG...not so much.
     
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  14. Russell

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    Great post, thanks Saad!
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he was great like Arturo Gatti was a great fighter to watch, but not a great fighter.
     
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