Khan would beat Lomachenko at 140!

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who agrees?

    I think Khan is massively underrated, he has a kryptonite and that is power but even then that is overstated. He got ktfo by Canelo, Prescot and Garcia left hook - pretty much any of those shots that landed on him would have taken out a lot of boxers. Garcia took out Morales and no one would accuse him of being chinny. He also took Maidana's shots so can't be too bad.

    I always thought Khan would bring Floyd a lot of trouble, he was taller, fast as hell, and hasn't been outboxed. Floyd didn't have the power to put his lights out. I think it's similar with Lomachenko, Loma is a master but he gets into a rhythm. Khan with his combinations and reach would disrupt that rhythm, and he's no slouch in boxing skills and amateur background either. He's a silver medalist who only lost gold to Mario Kindelan (which he avenged).

    Here's to Khan's return for 2018. I'd love for him to come back to WW and take on Crawford :D
     
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    likely since he has weight advantage. Nomas is untested at 140, Khan is and has passed at world level plenty times.

    Then again, yu can say Nomas when u are lying ktfo. and Khan would rather get knocked out than....
     
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    Dagnaldinho Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Khans would be too much for Lomachenko, Lomachenko wont ever replicate Floyd in going as high as Super Welterweight, doubt we will ever see him even go to 147lbs.

    Lomachenko needs to fight Linares or Garcia next, if he beats either one of them, then ill start to entertain him as a possible threat to 147lbs
     
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    Caleb Traux beats Floyd at 168

    Who agrees?

    I think Traux is massively underrated, he has a kryptonite and that is power but even then that is overstated. He got ktfo by Dirrel, Jacobs - pretty much any of those shots that landed on him would have taken out a lot of boxers. Jacobs took out Quillin and no one would accuse him of being chinny. He also took DeGale's shots so can't be too bad.

    I always thought Traux would bring Canelo a lot of trouble, he was taller, fast as hell, and hasn't been outboxed. Canelo didn't have the power to put his lights out. I think it's similar with Mayweather, Floyd is a master but he gets into a rhythm. Traux with his combinations and reach would disrupt that rhythm, and he's no slouch in boxing skills and amateur background either. He was the USA Boxing state champion.

    Here's to Traux's return for 2018. I'd love for him to come back and take on GGG :D
     
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    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Loma is almost 30...Floyd had already fought at 150lbs at that age. Doubt Loma will move any higher than 140lb.
     
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    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pacquiao moved up to 147 at 29/30 from 135 and was at 130 a fight before that. They are exactly the same size at each stage of their life. At 25 Pac was a 122/126 whereas Loma was at 126.

    Also I don't know why people are afraid to entertain the idea of Loma fighting JWW/WW. I'm guessing he would be the favourite going into a fight with Pac at 140 at this point.
     
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    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree, Traux isnt beating Canelo.
     
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    If Oscar agrees with you, you will see Canelo fight Traux for his 168 belt at 161 lbs catch weight.
     
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    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you think Traux would beat GGG? GGG would pummel him. Canelo lost to GGG, but he proved he's not far behind him.
     
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    I was just drawing comparison on size diff between (loma/Khan) & (floyd/Traux)
    Traux is a 168 world champion now, so I have to give him a chance vs any smaller boxer, regardless of skill level. Canelo is smaller than GGG so I will slightly favor Traux over Canelo based on size alone. GGG & Traux both started as Middleweights, Canelo is a meaty Red-headed Welter
     
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    The billing for Pacquiao-Lomachenko should be Speed Freaks.
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with your reasoning, completely logical, but I still think Canelo beats Traux. Skill difference is too vast and Canelo has adapted to his weight, they are a weight class apart which isn't much.

    As for Loma-Khan. Many people are comparing loma to chavez, castillo, mosley, all big guys. And as I said, he is the same size as Pac, Pac-Khan was a very fair matchup so I don't think size is too much of an issue. Stylistically, I just love to see someone try to "outbox" khan, rather than outright outfight him. The 2 best technical boxers I've seen of recent years is Floyd and Loma - I think with Khans reach and speed, he coulda outboxed both.
     
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    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan is just too big.
     
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    He would, because he's bigger.

    If they were the same size, Lomachenko would destroy Khan.

    Khan actually isn't that skilled. He's just fast. There'd be a HUGE gap in skill between Khan and Lomachenko.
     
  15. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Loma is that fast. Pac has unreal speed, surprising one, even Floyd in post fight interviews noted how he was a lot faster than he thought, and pretty much every opponent has said that.

    Loma is just a technical masterpiece, they share similarities in that they're both southpaws, throw a lot of punches and use a lot of angles.
     
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