ESPN goes full ******, places Wilder #10 P4P

If Wilder is the tenth best fighter in the world I'm changing sports.. Transexual judo sounds good.

 

Wilder would knockout Loma. Good list.

 

Even still Wilder would be too scared to face a top ranked guy like Loma, lol

 

Do these people just judge by record or do they actually open up their resumes and analyse their performances?

I mean if banging out Stiverne in 1 Round gets you Top 10 these days then Jesus christ

 

Again, he's destroyed all of the opponents placed before him, not beat them decisively, not won controversially, but has KTFO all of his close to 40 opponents, before GGG fought Canelo, his record resembled Wilder's, yet you and the Goons sang him praises.

If you're going to rate his status based on getting caught clean a couple of times and staggered, then Wlasimir Klitschko must be one of the worst P4P fighters ever according to your logic.

Wilder has not only KTFO 37 of his opponents, but he;s legitimately attempted to fight Povetkin and Ortiz, just so happens they are drug cheats.

Wilder would likely do a number on AJ imo. All AJ has done is beat a defeated man in Wladimir Klitschko who was coming off a loss, who is 100 years old in boxer age, and who is known for having a fragile chin. I personally don't rate a win against an opponent coming off a loss very high, especially whe that opponent is deteriorated.

Please tell me, which Joshua fight should I be impressed with?

 

Get it together ESPN

Wilder is in the top five

Smokin Dustin is ten

 

Wilder would not lay a glove on Loma. Cept in the prefight instructions

 

WHOA the butt hurt. The whole Trumpesque angle of insulting people who try and look at things with logic and reason doesn't make your view any more valid. I didn't say Wilder hasn't done no good - I just questioned his top 10 P4P rating. Are you comparing ANYONE on Wilder's resume with Canelo, Jacobs or Lemieux?

No, I'm going to rate him on his wins and just giving additional mention to the punishment he took versus not ultra strong opponents. Klitschko fought HEAPS of people who are better than anyone on Wilder's resume, of course he was likely to take some damage. If Klitschko went through Wilder's resume he'd probably be untouched, if Wilder went through Klitschko's resume he could arguably have spent a lot of time unconscious.

This part is true. Until he fights and beats them however, it means nothing - whether or not it's his fault. KTFO just means a "W". It's a valid "W", but doesn't make it any more meaningful... in the case of Wilder I treat it a little bit as a get out of jail free card he has possibly been using against fighters of the level that the card is likely to work against. I'm not saying that I am certain that when he does he WILL get exposed, but until he actually has a win of that caliber there is no reason to say he is a P4P top ten. I disagreed with GGG being mentioned as a top P4P fighter until very recently, now there is at least a case to be made.

I literally said in the other post I didn't think AJ should be in that list either, stop putting words in my mouth and arguing with them - if you can't make any reasonable case against what I am actually saying then either concede it or pretend it didn't happen, makes you look less like a moron.

 

I think Wilder beats Ortiz. He needs to fight AJ. Ortiz is no longer viable and it would send a false message if Wilder beats him.

 

What a joke.

 

Butt hurt? No son, I'm not butthurt. You may be projecting.

I can compare several fighters on Wilder's resume to Lemieux. Lemieux is a solid B level fighter at very best.

With that said, Wilder has only be champion over two years, GGG had been champion 7 years before he fought a legitimate opponent.

Think about that for a second. In fact, Wilder would have had Povetkin and Ortiz' scalps had they not tested dirty. So in two years being a champ he would have had a better record than GGG or at least be on par had they not tested dirty. Nevertheless, he's barely ending his 2nd year as champion.

W. Klitschko got KTFO by guys on par with Wilder's opposition.

Of course I'm right. Wilder has been more than willing. Not his fault his opponents are not confident.

Bottom line is that any sane reasonable fan will accept that there is no true champion at HW. The only moron here is you.

 

He hasn’t fought anyone so how he beat them is irrelevant.

Wilder would struggle to get into any sensible persons top 10 Heavyweights so pound for pound top 10 is a joke.

 

If I were projecting I'd think you were amused Remember this discussion started because you are weeping about me not rating Wilder as a top P4P fighter, there is nothing for me to be butthurt about here - I just stated my opinion and since then I've been entertained by the ensuing hissy fights you've been throwing.

Already back with the putting words in my mouth to try and make it look like we're debating on the same level. Just so people don't think I'm saying the things you're indicating I am:

I think all current HW title holders are very much a work in progress, and absolutely do not rank any of them as P4P top 10 material.

 

They didn't just "go full *******."

They've long been.

 

I'm not sure whats funnier Wilder in the top 10 p4p or Isal may actually believe the garbage he is spewing out.....

Both give me quite a chuckle...