"Attaboy rounds" - a common fallacy in scoring boxing matches RBR.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Heavy lies the crown, no?
     
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  2. Ilikeboxing

    Ilikeboxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was not a clear BJS, far from it. It could have gone either way. Closest round of the fight, by far. I had no problem "giving" it to David as he was already 11-0 down on my card. Those 11 rounds were some of the easiest rounds I've scored in a long time.
     
  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmao.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    But I've read people who don't see you that way, so they're out there. Usually fandom, prediction, or agenda based as I said annoys me with folks that you can see through it.

    A lot of folks who claim they never give attaboy rounds but do also claim they watch each round in a vacuum with blinders on as well but don't.

    Other than gymnastics being more so, not too many sports compete with boxing when it comes to being opinion-based on just about every aspect of it.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :lol: Pretty much.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would never score a "attaboy" round for any fighter. You either won, lost or drew the round. Attaboy rounds cheat boxers.
     
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  7. scorecard12

    scorecard12 Member banned Full Member

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    well you called it an attboy round. that's not what his post means. his post means giving people rounds they clearly didnt win just for showing up.
    I agree round 12 the closest round of the fight the only round where Lemieux outlanded saunders. and the reason lemieux had 50 ish power punches in the fight (body shots even weak ones count as power shots) he landed shots with no steam but they landed while saunders was content making Lemieux look like ****.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I mean in cases like tonight where it doesn't affect the outcome (it's no skin off BJS' ass if the cards read 119-109 instead of 120-108 across the board) it's just down to the principle of it.

    In close fights, though, say where there was a momentum shift and one guy is getting tooled but has a halfway decent comeback round (but objectively still ought to have lost it)..
     
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  9. kirk

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    Theres a difference though.

    Many people are unaware of how these type of rounds influence their scoring. Its different when you are aware of it and are trying to score with that in mind, than being unaware of it and scoring without that in mind. The influence of these sort of rounds relies heavily on one not being aware you are doing it.
     
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  10. scorecard12

    scorecard12 Member banned Full Member

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    One of my issues is when a figher clearly won 3 rounds. and the next round they lose slightly but it didnt change the momentum and they score it for the guy who won the previous round. I see both happen a lot. I can't even think of 3 rounds in that fight that were even CLOSE. (lemieux saunders, I know this is why the thread was made)

    ******* had it a shutout and for round by rounds that's the one that I think is the best. Harold letterman had it 120-108 too but he is hot and cold.
     
  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I understood what you said. And many announcers and pro fighters do it on live telecasts. I don't and never will.
     
  12. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A round had to be won, with clean punches and/or dictating the acting though one guy imposing his style on the other. What I also hate, that falls within an "attanoy" round is not giving the boxer the round just because he boxed on the backfoot more or didn't commit to land as much. If the other guy didn't land and looked clueless he doesn't get a freebie round just because the boxer coasted the round.

    To compare Saunders-Lemieux to Mayweather-Canelo isn't fair to Canelo because he deserved a good two rounds. Lemieux did not win a round against Saunders. Saunders shut him out, if you don't think so you're wrong.
     
  13. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I gave the 9th to Lemieux because I thought he landed the better work.

    Also others will have given him the 12th because BJS did nothing but run. I personally made the 12th even.

    Also 2 out of 3 of the judges agreed that it was not a 120-108 fight....

    I had it 119-110.
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    That's true. But look at this forum for example. Attaboy rounds almost exclusively split by agenda/prediction. Often times it's looking to give it to them. "Just because he did better than the last round..." is something I say quite a bit when watching with folks. If you're specifically actively thinking about it, one could claim that can negatively affect your viewing as well. Watching in a vacuum implies you would not be thinking about that at all and thus wouldn't jump immediately to that thought. I guess it comes down to classic "115-113 fights where the 113 guy won his rounds huge and the 115 guy won his rounds slim" thinking that some can't grasp.
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought Saunders easily shut Lemieux out but I do think Canelo won a round or two. Gotta re-watch it though.