Chris Eubank lost to every good fighter he faced! Very Overrated!

he lost to Steve Collins twice, Joe Calzaghe, and should have losses to Ray Close. I'm sure these losses in particular annoy Buldog24 aka Atberry the most

 

Perhaps that's what's wrong with his brain now?

 

Think he,s always been a little bit odd. But disagree with the op about eubank being overrated. He was pretty much the real deal...its just that the competition was so great back then. Even if he was missing the top top fighters...the guys left we,re better than the top guys nowadays.

He,d have beat calzaghe. Calzaghe was good at what he done but eubank all them guys back then had real apprenticeships ones we don' really see now. They improved by fighting/sparring learning every aspect of the game. Calzaghe etc just really worked on what they we,re good at. He got so good at it he was able to deal with the guys of today. But he would have been found wanting if he was in with the guys of back then imo. They,d make him pay for his high volume.

The guys today we,rent good enough to make him pay for it. Eubank would have tho. Most of the guys back then had good one punch power. Most importantly they knew how to use it.

Tbf eubank was affected by the Watson fight...I still don't think we seen the very best of him because he started fighting within himself after that fight. Was never quite the same.

 

Chris Eubank was unbelievable coming through, nobody landed more perfect short punches on a defensive wizard in Randy Smith and Smith fought EVERYONE (including McCallum, Hopkins and Nunn), then he went on a 10-month 7-fight stoppage run with picture-perfect shots finishing off fellow prospects.

This was when he first signed with Matchroom and could just train every day as a full-time professional - he worked in Debenhams and a Wimpy in Brighton from mid-87 to mid-89, stealing clothes and food to get by.

I think when he started struggling with weight he got sloppy with the right hands, coupled with Watson in the back of his mind (didn't want to set his feet to unleash that power). The Benn win totally changed his life, a rags to riches moment. But he was killing himself to make weight to keep defending the title. Ronnie Davies says he was always a light-heavy/cruiser making middle/super-middle.

 

In fairness Eubank beat Benn, beat Watson albeit controversially and the second ended tragically and a few other very underrated fighters.

My criticism of him is he never fought the top American fighters, the likes of RJJ, Hopkins, Nunn or a McClellan.

If you look at Benn, Benn fought DeWitt in his own backyard and won the WBO title, he beat Barkley inside a round who was coming off a MD loss to Michael Nunn and McClellan who was very highly rated by nearly everybody inside boxing.

Eubank hasn't got those sorts of names or victories on his resume but he was still a very good boxer.

In my opinion and the opinion of many other Eubank changed after Watson II, he lost something that night, maybe it was the situation and the tragic ending or maybe Watson beat it out of him but he was never the same.

 

Well Hopkins was well down the rankings in 1991 and made no sense? I hadn't even heard of him?

Yep Barkley arguably BEAT Duran (if you score on boxing) and Nunn (if you score on aggression) for the WBC and IBF belts (and Nunn had beat WBA king Kalambay in a round) and Benn beat Barkley in a round in Vegas!

Then Eubank beat Benn..... regardless of Benn's nationality or where the fight took place. Remember Eubank came over from New York in '88 with an AMERICAN accent!

I remember Bob Arum saying Eubank had too much of an awkward style for his fighters, on ITV's 1992 year-end show.

 

Thats total bull and you know it, ironic you being a Tyson fan and all.

 

Thats because Calzaghe was big business in the UK and had Warren behind him.

Who did Froch have at the start?....Mick Hennesy, that was Frochs problem not Calzaghe's.

He faced 10 former/future/current world champions.

He beat a prime Kessler....something Froch couldn't do.

Calzaghe facing a 32yo Eubank is arguably better than anything Froch did up until losing to Kessler.....stop with the he avoided everyone BS.

 

He beat Watson, he beat Benn, he beat Rocchigianni, he beat Malinga, he beat Wharton, he beat Thornton, he beat Holmes. He arguably deserved to get the win in one of the Collins fights and the first Thompson fight, and he gave Calzaghe one of the most difficult fights of his entire career despite stepping in at 12 days notice and having a crash diet to make weight.

Much like James Toney, he could look brilliant against one fighter then look crap against another and got some generous decisions in fights he appeared to lose, but the rub also went the other way and he lost fights he arguably deserved to win.

He also never claimed to be in boxing to create a legacy. He was a money fighter and proud of it. There was no reason for him to go out of his way to fight the bigger names and try to break America when he was one of the highest paid fighter in the world in his prime as WBO Champion.

He might not have been amongst the greatest ever but, overrated or not, he was a very, very good fighter and deserves respect for it.

 

Calzaghe was big business in the UK? He couldn't sell-out Cardiff Ice Rink pre-Lacy

 

Could he not? Mmmmm proof would be nice?

Also if there was no money why did the majority of top names come to the UK?

Two things though....

1. Calzaghe would never go life and death with Storey....TWICE.

2. You've still not told me or replied to me why Degale is a disgrace...I think that is the word you used.

 

You're not worth mine or anyones time. Grow up.

 

I take it that's a "NO I CAN'T".

I suggest you stop making stuff up then.

 

The Hopkins win was a clear robbery.Hopkins completely outboxed Joe and was robbed.

 

no robbery at all lol Calaghe was too busy for him, Calzaghes brittle damaged hands at that point of his career were enough to box up Hopkins who went on at the top for many more years after that, Calzaghe was pure class, and a true winner.