Povetkin is the most skilled heavyweight currently

if hes the most skilled then how come hes won nothing for 2 decades.

 

I don't believe I mentioned any conspiracy?

1) Meldonium aka mildronat was freely available for years. Anybody could take it. Since the 1970's. It's debated whether it has a positive effect at all. That's an "unfair advantage," the same as taking a multivitamin every day is an "unfair advantage".
2) The amount detected by VADA was vanishingly small and in fact was UNDER the permissible limit by a large amount. It could have no measurable pharmacological effect.
3) WILDER was on a plane running the engines red hot back to the States before anybody had even taken a decision on the matter. HE scuppered the Povetkin fight
4) WILDER was the ***** that was crying tears that it was like Povetkin bringing a knife into the ring.

Absurd. He's got a single solitary loss on his resume, and that was to Wlad, the King of the division for over a decade. Wilder wouldn't even go into the same timezone as Wlad. Now he's manuevering to fight Parker or Joshua. Are you even following current events? Wilder scuppered the AJ fight by demanding money that he absolutely does not bring to the table. So much for chicken wings Wilder!

Arguably the best resume at heavyweight today, depending on how much weight you put on the Wlad win by Joshua. Wilder's resume consists of stiffs, garbagemen and football hooligans. I dare you to compare Povetkin and Wilder's resumes name for name and match them from best to worst. Sasha's resume shits all over Wilder's.

RAAAYYYCCCISSSSMMMM!!!



Anytime a black guy can't achieve, it's somebody else's (a white man, obviously) fault. Wait ... still some more tears:

Uummm. Wilder sucks, dude. Seriously.

If he steps it up and proves me wrong, I will hat tip him.

Until then:

 

Been viewing this forum for ages and recently signed up, but still to this day i can never tell if some threads are serious or not lol....i mean just read the title 'Povetkin is the most skilled heavyweight currently'....smh

 

I don't believe I mentioned any conspiracy?

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1) Meldonium aka mildronat was freely available for years. Anybody could take it. Since the 1970's. It's debated whether it has a positive effect at all. That's an "unfair advantage," the same as taking a multivitamin every day is an "unfair advantage".
2) The amount detected by VADA was vanishingly small and in fact was UNDER the permissible limit by a large amount. It could have no measurable pharmacological effect.
3) WILDER was on a plane running the engines red hot back to the States before anybody had even taken a decision on the matter. HE scuppered the Povetkin fight
4) WILDER was the ***** that was crying tears that it was like Povetkin bringing a knife into the ring.

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Absurd. He's got a single solitary loss on his resume, and that was to Wlad, the King of the division for over a decade. Wilder wouldn't even go into the same timezone as Wlad. Now he's manuevering to fight Parker or Joshua. Are you even following current events? Wilder scuppered the AJ fight by demanding money that he absolutely does not bring to the table. So much for chicken wings Wilder!

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Arguably the best resume at heavyweight today, depending on how much weight you put on the Wlad win by Joshua. Wilder's resume consists of stiffs, garbagemen and football hooligans. I dare you to compare Povetkin and Wilder's resumes name for name and match them from best to worst. Sasha's resume ****s all over Wilder's.

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RAAAYYYCCCISSSSMMMM!!!



Anytime a black guy can't achieve, it's somebody else's (a white man, obviously) fault. Wait ... still some more tears:

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Uummm. Wilder sucks, dude. Seriously.

If he steps it up and proves me wrong, I will hat tip him.

Until then: [/QUOTE]


Wow, amazeballs. Wilder sucks....great description. Who the **** are you to me? Some ******* what learns from me from time to time init? Have I reciprocated this? Maybe, when you've a guy who can speak at length on any period from 686 BC to now covering any boxing relative subject, maybe instead of telling him ****in anything maybe goofy little unresearched ****s who wouldn't know how to find truth from spin if you paid them for it ought to shut the **** up when grown ass men is speaking, or ask more question than they do telling. Maybe, I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm able to speak at length on any given subject in boxing because I told those who taught me they're wrong and endeavours such detail as X sucks backing it all with article jockey nonsense...yeah...clearly my posts are derivative of those who are paid to spin information into the most entertaining form it can take. Mine are, not yours....mine...cleary.

It's one thing to tell me you disagree, it's a completely different endeavour when you be an emotional little toad's pizzle without having ****in' anything of worth to say. Where I challenge for contradiction you offer me rationalization and where I challenge for rationalization you side step with an utter lack of detail.

Basically what I'm saying to you is you should be embarrassed because this interaction is more telling of your bias than any valid reason for Pov's ***** career to not be such a *****'s career. You can't even handle one ****in' valid point. Can't explain what was asked, but are clearly worked up. The **** is wrong with you? You're just upset over the verdict and have ****in' nothing but some ***** ass crying to do in retaliation.

I don't give a **** if Pov makes yer ***** wet. I don't give a **** if Wilder dries you up. I asked explicit questions.

I like Pov, I'm a HW fan and we've not got enough to be elitist, but you assholes, his fans, probably the worst scum sucking morons in boxing. Give me a pac-****, a *****, someone riding that AJ dick, a Wlad-boy, King Fury's loyal subject, ****in' anything rather than the stupid **** the Pov fans try to claim. It's not Pov I take issue with, it's the consistently damn near brain dead lengths the Pov fans go to justify a man who clearly was and is not up to anything resembling a challenge. Look up, damn near brain dead the whole ****in' post. Like I'm talking to someone who doesn't understand english or some ****.

 

Daaamn who the hell gonna read all that lol

 

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It's an explanation. So that even you can understand.

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1) You're having difficulty in following my argument. And yet, it's a simple argument. So let's try again.

Step 1: Povetkin took Meldonium. For years. Openly.
Step 2: Meldonium was not banned.
Step 3: Meldonium was available to EVERYBODY
Step 4: IF it had a positive effect, then WILDER was STUPID not to use it, just like everybody else could use it.

I trust that even you can follow this.

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1) Bull****
2) Prove it

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I like your cut - and - pasted articles, it's true.

You mean, "Have you reciprocated this?"

Sure, let me help you, you intellectual washout:

"Some ******* what learns from me from time to time init?"

You mean, "Some ******* that learns from me from time to time, isn't it so?"

Seems to me you're so up your own arse that the kids play football with you at the park. Wow, awesome trumpeting of your own abilities when in actual fact YOU ARE WRONG and will continue to be wrong on this subject. But you're welcome to keep cutting and pasting historical articles. Or, we could get BJS' kid to do it instead.

Keep crying

You got your arse kicked.

You failed to give me a better career at HW.

Wilder, whose knob you polish, has a worse career.

Ergo, you're a failure.

Deal with it.

I like Wilder, I'm his biggest fan, in fact, even though he sucks and hasn't stepped it up since he started boxing.

You stupid moron, learn to speak proper English when you talk to me. I'm not some dumb twat from the gutter like your friends (innit, ey, ey, wot?) and even though you may be king in the cesspool that you live in because you know how to spell "fish and chips" without 'u' in the fish, you're playing on a different level here. Go back to school, twit.

 

Fitness wise, he looks in better shape than anytime before in his life.

 

the **** did i just read

 

Wow, amazeballs. Wilder sucks....great description. Who the **** are you to me? Some ******* what learns from me from time to time init? Have I reciprocated this? Maybe, when you've a guy who can speak at length on any period from 686 BC to now covering any boxing relative subject, maybe instead of telling him ****in anything maybe goofy little unresearched ****s who wouldn't know how to find truth from spin if you paid them for it ought to shut the **** up when grown ass men is speaking, or ask more question than they do telling. Maybe, I dunno, maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm able to speak at length on any given subject in boxing because I told those who taught me they're wrong and endeavours such detail as X sucks backing it all with article jockey nonsense...yeah...clearly my posts are derivative of those who are paid to spin information into the most entertaining form it can take. Mine are, not yours....mine...cleary.

It's one thing to tell me you disagree, it's a completely different endeavour when you be an emotional little toad's pizzle without having ****in' anything of worth to say. Where I challenge for contradiction you offer me rationalization and where I challenge for rationalization you side step with an utter lack of detail.

Basically what I'm saying to you is you should be embarrassed because this interaction is more telling of your bias than any valid reason for Pov's ***** career to not be such a *****'s career. You can't even handle one ****in' valid point. Can't explain what was asked, but are clearly worked up. The **** is wrong with you? You're just upset over the verdict and have ****in' nothing but some ***** ass crying to do in retaliation.

I don't give a **** if Pov makes yer ***** wet. I don't give a **** if Wilder dries you up. I asked explicit questions.

I like Pov, I'm a HW fan and we've not got enough to be elitist, but you assholes, his fans, probably the worst scum sucking morons in boxing. Give me a pac-****, a *****, someone riding that AJ ****, a Wlad-boy, King Fury's loyal subject, ****in' anything rather than the stupid **** the Pov fans try to claim. It's not Pov I take issue with, it's the consistently damn near brain dead lengths the Pov fans go to justify a man who clearly was and is not up to anything resembling a challenge. Look up, damn near brain dead the whole ****in' post. Like I'm talking to someone who doesn't understand english or some ****.[/QUOTE]

The ramblings of a madman.

 

Chucky was once an elite HW, backed by the Russian Mafia, but now he's
getting close to a gulag exile because either Wilder or Joshua spark him out,
and Fury would mentally destroy him BEFORE EVEN GETTING IN THE RING.
He's got very little skills left.

 

what elites has he beat or matched, to earn the term elite? Or do you mean elite amateur, he was that for sure.


But in pro, he was certainly world class back in the Peday for sure.

Mind you he spanked Muhammad Ali in 2 in his first fight so...

 

Get ready for more shocks....go on the "Classic" thread once in a while.

 

KO'd Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman (ok he was old) were certainly high level wins, Charr/Takam/Wach who all fought for HW titles I believe but I agree couldn't be called "elite".
Eddie Chambers was once considered pretty good, so was Larry Donald. All Chucky wins.

 

byrd was 37 he wasnt elite - he was barely world class by then. how can u even think that?
rahman was never elite, and was a cripple by then, his prime in which he was world class was in those years around the turn of the century, not 2012. wrong frekin decadera dude.

none of these guys are world class, they were gifted title shots by titlists trying to have an easy life but I am sure glad you dont think they are elite or I'd wondering what padded cell you are typing this from.

they are both at best easys or staybusys at world level.

I agree Pov was when prime and in his heavyPEDtaking days, a substantially world class guy, as displayed from matching Huck, which was his best case for elitedom in his career.