...is Saunders the best middleweight not named Golovkin since Pirog?

Jacobs has wins on that level and a razor close fight with GGG.

Canelo has wins at that level or higher (Lara, Trout) and a razor close fight with GGG.

 

His resume does have impressive consistency (at a certain level) but there's also the fact that you can argue he doesn't deserve one of those decisions (Against a decidedly European level fighter) It loses plenty of it's luster if he has a loss on that record.

I don't like the way he just limped home over the finishing line after bamboozling Eubank Jr early on either... He looked far too uncomfortable under heavy pressure, and Eubank Jr hasn't "proven" himself in my mind yet. I don't think that bodes well for him against the actual best fighters in the world at his best, like Golvolkin. Even outside of his own prime years as he is now I feel like he's a nightmare match-up for Saunder's.

He applies a completely different and actually refined kind of pressure to the ring. I don't think Saunder's could deal with it to be honest.

 

Lara gave up too many close rounds by running. Saunders had close wins too.

 

you already discredit his win vs lemieux though..

 

smh.. can't believe most people voting yes... you guys are being fooled by what he did to a one dimentional lemmy. Jacobs/canelo/ggg beat bjs and it wont be close vs any of them.

 

Saunders put on a great performance the other night but let's not jump the gun or make too much of it. I'd still favor Canelo, Jacobs, and possibly Charlo over him. This victory just puts him back into the mix with the top dogs, after he dropped out of it last year. Put him in the ring with another good guy who isn't made to order like say Andrade or Murata and see how he does then. Middleweight is full of killers at the moment and they all need more than one good win to plead their case.

 

Good post. Saunders may very well prove himself against one of the top three, but he hasn't yet. All of a sudden BJSaunders beats Lemieux and his fans get ridiculously excited and start posting **** like Hagler vs BJS LOL... These are probably troll threads either way, this place needs cleaning up.

I think Saunders-Andrade is an excellent fight. I think they match very close on paper. I think his next fight may be with GGG or Canelo, unless he ducks them. Supposedly he has a reputation of ducking GGG, so who knows.

 

It was a close fight with close rounds regardless. Lara proved he owned JrMW, he used that to get Canelo in the ring. The fight was close but and could be called for either fighter depending on your bias. Many Lara stablemates said Canelo won, there's on video on YouTube.

I really enjoyed watching him neutralize Lemieux, it was fun to watch, but I knew that could have been a very likely outcome. I've been watching Lemieux fight since the Alcine fight. I became an instant fan. Since I've started watching him in 2011, he hasn't improved much, he still fights in straight lines, still follows his opponents around, still lacks head movement and defense overall. He's improved his Jan and maybe his timing a little. I picked Cotto to beat possibly KO DL, and a bunch of posters locked me lol.. I also said that if Saunders had a jab, and sound defense, which he did, he would beat Lemieux.

Can't rate Saunders over Trout, Lara, Jacobs, or Canelo, he hasn't taken the challenge yet.

 

You guys are spamming the board with troll threads, Hagler vs Saunders/Hearns vs Saunders, and you're right in the mix. It's easy schooling you excited emotional fanboys lol.

I believe that Saunders may be capable of beating any of the top 3 fighters in the MW division. But you guys are ejaculating all over each other over that win. Lol

 

You're trolling me. Congratulations on being a BJSaunders fan since you were in diapers. I enjoyed his performance too.

Saunders is the next level to what? To a regional fighter? Looks like it. He may eventually prove to be one of the best like you suggest. A win against DL doesn't prove that, or Monroe lol...

Ill admit I'm intrigued to see more of BJ, his fights on YT are not as entertaining as this last performance. If he doesn't get picked up by Canelo or GGG, I want to see him against an Andrade, Charlo to prove he can compete with the next level above DL. I know Haymon won't let Charlo near any threat right now, but Andrade seems like a possibility. If he does good against that level then things really get interesting.

For now, he has proven he is better and smarter than David Lemieux and a bunch of domestic fighters.

 

You probably act like this in real life.

Yes, I do want him with Andrade or Charlo. It's the natural course for his level of experience. I would rather Saunders be tested and ready to fight at the elite level, than to see him fail miserably. There are steps to this.

I don't mind a Canelo fight at all. In fact I think it's a possible fight. I'm sure Golden Boy wouldn't mind owning that belt.

I think the hysteria is funny, I even think you're trolling, and if you are it's sad you've reduced this place to that. But if your not trolling and you believe what you say and agree with then it exposes your inability to be unbiased in your debates questioning your credibility.