Did Tua quit against Lewis?

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  1. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously he didnt completely quit but did he in some way mentally capitulate and become a "game loser" by refusing to put himself in a position to win, choosing to just plod his way to a decision loss against the cautious Lewis?
     
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  2. UFC2015

    UFC2015 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did not have the speed and skills to trouble Lewis. Was too predictable with that left hook and he truly needed a lucky miracle punch.
     
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  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Greatly disapppointed in Tua for that fight. Came in out of shape and mentally folded after the first round. Credit to Lewis as well for bossing him in that fight. A big stain on Tua who had a solid career.
     
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  4. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Jeff Lacy and David Lemieux found out it takes more than a big left hook
    to defeat a skilled mobile opponent. Joe Frazier was a exception but he had
    underrated boxing skills and was driven by pure hatred for Ali.
    Tua found Lewis physical advantages and style too much to handle.
     
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  5. Cdg

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    Credit to Lewis in that fight. Tua had heart, but Lewis was bigger and was better skilled. Tua didn’t give up, and kept looking for the killer punch till the end. Lewis followed a game plan to stay outside perfectly. Lewis is a legend, and showed his class in this fight.
     
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  6. mcvey

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    I think he settled for losing by dec and not getting too busted up.
     
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  7. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Disapointing performance by Tua. The only thing he showed was a great chin.
     
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  8. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes once Lewis cracked him with a right and he couldn't get anything going
     
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  9. Rumsfeld

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    Tua's problems in the Lewis fight all dated back to the time following his win over Rahman. He was never the same after that, and he sat on his ranking, fighting subpar opposition and getting out of shape, while Lewis and Holyfield had their 1999 rivalry.
     
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  10. 5016

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    There were two kinds of
    I think that Tua's problems in the Lewis fight dated to him having a 70" reach
     
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  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I agree. Tua was always going to have trouble with Lennox, as he always had difficulty going up against guys with solid jabs, and Lewis had an outstanding jab. But all the same, if Tua had taken the Rahman rematch or a fight against Grant, when he was sitting on his ranking, getting out of shape, and facing a few overmatched guys - he would have given himself a much better chance at landing something. But even at his best, it was a tall order for him. It takes more than a left hook and a haircut to beat Lennox Lewis.

    :smoking:
     
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  12. Mendoza

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    Tua opted out. He did the same vs Chris Byrd.
     
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  13. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    He did quit. He stopped trying to win and take chances and instead chose to survive. Had he moved his hands even to the body to get inside he may have caught one coming in. Then that over rated chin would have been exposed. Lewis essentially toyed with him.
     
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  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very good and true point!
     
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  15. reznick

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    Imagine if Marciano was Lewis's opponent that night.
    Would he have a rougher time?
     
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