Defeating the Greatest Opposition of All Time (Top 12)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by eltirado, Dec 18, 2017.


Page 1 of 4
  1. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,706
    1,690
    Jul 31, 2013
    17.867 Vasyl Lomachenko - Olympic Gold Medalist
    17.143 Shiming Zhou - Olympic Gold Medalist
    11.197 Oscar De La Hoya - Olympic Gold Medalist
    07.930 Kostya Tszyu
    07.925 Kazuto Ioka
    07.896 Andre Ward - Olympic Gold Medalist
    07.375 Ryota Murata - Olympic Gold Medalist
    07.130 Kosei Tanaka
    06.960 James J Corbett
    06.942 James Jeffries
    06.814 Alexander Povetkin - Olympic Gold Medalist
    06.813 Guillermo Rigondeaux - Olympic Gold Medalist
    06.607 Floyd Mayweather - Olympic Bronze Medalist
    06.554 Evander Holyfield - Olympic Bronze Medalist
    06.406 Sung Kil Moon - Amateur record 219–22
    ________________________________________________________
    Over-represented boxers in this ranking:
    - Olympic Medalists, are expected to defeat elite opposition immediately
    - Japanese boxing culture encourages higher level opposition
     
    Last edited: Dec 22, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    #1
    OvidsExile likes this.
  2. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

    7,393
    5,900
    Jul 21, 2017
    What's your formula?
     
    Paranoid Android, Dec 18, 2017
    Paranoid Android, Dec 18, 2017
    #2
    eltirado likes this.
  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,706
    1,690
    Jul 31, 2013
    Counting the wins-losses ratio of boxers they defeated,

    If you count all Pacman wins & all his losses of the guys he beaten. It will come out close to 5.7, I tried it on top champions, will try it on contenders, although the high ratio is concentrated in champions
     
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    #3
    OvidsExile likes this.
  4. Lemiwinks

    Lemiwinks Member Full Member

    115
    133
    Dec 17, 2017
    PAC was learning on the job, where as you mentioned, Olympic champions have had extensive experience in the amateurs and are pushed to fight better opposition through the hype.
     
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    #4
    bailey and eltirado like this.
  5. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

    75,281
    39,714
    Jan 22, 2015
    You mean what's his stock?
     
    drenlou, Dec 18, 2017
    drenlou, Dec 18, 2017
    #5
  6. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,706
    1,690
    Jul 31, 2013
    That is the idea, Olympic Gold medalists will now have to do what Vasyl did or stay in the amateurs. Shiming was also brought up the hard way (both Vasyl & Shiming were Bob Arum), so maybe he didn't have time for stalling & wanted to see the end game in his lifetime...Which helped boxing a lot, Shiming got derailed, but picked a belt...Vasyl managed to become a legend, not a bad deal
     
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    #6
    bailey likes this.
  7. Lemiwinks

    Lemiwinks Member Full Member

    115
    133
    Dec 17, 2017
    I haven't watched shining at all to be honest. What this Ukrainian is doing is really unbelievable and unprecedented.
    His style I've never seen before. An aggressive slick boxer who barely gets hit! Very very impressive
     
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    #7
    bailey and eltirado like this.
  8. Paranoid Android

    Paranoid Android Manny Pacquiao — The Thurmanator banned Full Member

    7,393
    5,900
    Jul 21, 2017
    Go away, Deformity.
     
    Paranoid Android, Dec 18, 2017
    Paranoid Android, Dec 18, 2017
    #8
  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,706
    1,690
    Jul 31, 2013
    Shiming Olympic credit didn't translate well in the Pros. Vasyl fight vs Salido was the rudest welcome possible to the Pros but it seems to have helped Vasyl. Now it seems he is a class above the Boxing Elite
     
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    #9
    Birmingham likes this.
  10. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

    75,281
    39,714
    Jan 22, 2015
    Why don't you make me, deformity?
     
    drenlou, Dec 18, 2017
    drenlou, Dec 18, 2017
    #10
  11. Lemiwinks

    Lemiwinks Member Full Member

    115
    133
    Dec 17, 2017
    In a way salido was the best thing to happen to lomachenko. He was naive and it has taught him how unfair the pro ranks can be.
    He has a nasty streak in the ring now which I like
     
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    Lemiwinks, Dec 18, 2017
    #11
    FastSmith7 and eltirado like this.
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

    43,650
    13,046
    Apr 1, 2007
    You didn't miss much, no worries.
     
    Russell, Dec 18, 2017
    Russell, Dec 18, 2017
    #12
    eltirado likes this.
  13. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    28,390
    39,781
    Jan 7, 2014
    You should watch it, its a great movie, very creepy and horrific. There is this one scene where Jack Nicholson walked in a shower and saw this beautiful lady nude, but as she got closer it was actually an ugly old lady. The movie was great, you should watch The Shining it will give you the creeps.
     
    mirkofilipovic, Dec 18, 2017
    mirkofilipovic, Dec 18, 2017
    #13
    FastSmith7, Aussie Invader and eltirado like this.
  14. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,706
    1,690
    Jul 31, 2013
    The mind of a primate
     
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    eltirado, Dec 18, 2017
    #14
  15. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    28,390
    39,781
    Jan 7, 2014
    We are all primates arent we?
     
    mirkofilipovic, Dec 18, 2017
    mirkofilipovic, Dec 18, 2017
    #15
    Gil Gonzalez and eltirado like this.
Page 1 of 4