BJs could run through GGG Murata Jacobs and Canelo

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  1. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    Dude... Please I already have another Canelo fanboy in this forum who is delusional about him.. Please seriously.. Stop the nutgagging.. I don't know what fight you were watching but Canelo did not give Floyd problems lol! WTF are you talking about? As a matter of fact.. If I'm not mistaken.. That was CJ Ross last time scoring a fight due to her stupid irrational card... Canelo looked like a tune up fight for Floyd.. I remember the frustration on his face and the defensive genious Floyd was that night... Seriously.. What fight were you watching? That was one of the most one sided and skillful performances by Mayweather... Canelo was taken to school

    Read this post.. http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...ng-mayweather-alvarez-fight-draws-controversy
     
  2. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    this guys is crazier than Isal
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The original post said "The Judge Byrd gave Floyd more problems than Canelo". Then he edited it to say Ross after I informed him that Ross, not Byrd, judged Canelo Mayweather. Literally forgot which judge judged the fight lol.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL what fight was I watching? I was watching the fight that happened. What fight were you watching?

    I followed your link and it said "Ross, 64, of Las Vegas, sent Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Keith Kizer an email on Tuesday saying that she would step away from the sport she has judged for more than 20 years."

    Ross of her own volition decided to step away from the sport after all the negativity she received from all the Floyd nuthuggers out there in denial of how close it was and critical of her score. She was probably getting death threats from the Mayweather fanboys out there for scoring it a draw, but it's important to point out that she was never removed by the commission or anything. Lets read on :

    "We respect her decision, and appreciate her love of the sport she has served for over 20 years," Kizer said. "She came into the [commission] office [on Tuesday] and spoke with chairman [Bill] Brady, commissioner [Francisco] Aguilar and me."

    Although they did not review video together, they did discuss her scoring of the fight.

    "She did not get too in depth, especially without a DVD of the bout," Kizer said. "She referenced it was round-by-round scoring, and that overall she thought Mayweather outperformed Alvarez."


    Pay attention to the bolded parts. That though she had it 114-114, she thought Mayweather outperformed Alvarez.

    You talk about nuthuggery, what about all the Floyd nuthuggers calling the fight a shutout and pretty much trashing Ross's card, unwilling to admit how close it was? That's nuthuggery of Floyd at its finest! You got this backwards and twisted man. It was a skillful performance by Mayweather, but it wasn't one-sided at all. Just yesterday, CST80 stated "Rounds 2, 3, 9, 10, 11, 12 were all close, a few could go either way". And that's not even counting round 4 which he gave to Canelo, and Round 6 which was a textbook toss-up round. Watch the 6th round again if you don't believe me. It was as even a round as I've ever seen. Then you have round 8 that Canelo was getting the best of Floyd until the final minute. That doesn't sound like a one-sided fight does it?

    Ask yourself how many Floyd Mayweather fights do you have that many close / could go either way rounds? Almost all of Floyd's fights are clear lopsided decisions. So the fact that Canelo contested that many rounds, right there it's clearly on a short list of Floyd's closest fights ever. If you take into account all 3 scorecards, not just Ross's, it's equal to the Maidana 1 scorecard.

    So you're on an island if you think it was a one-sided fight. Whether it was close enough to be a draw is debatable. I personally didn't think it was a quite a draw, something like 7-5 or 8-4 seems more reasonable, maybe 7-4-1 Floyd or 6-4-2 if you score the 12th even as well, but as far as Mayweather fights are concerned, Canelo came as close to beating Floyd as anyone else has, with the exception of Castillo. And remember, like Ross said, you score boxing on a round-by-round basis, so just because you end up with 114-114 doesn't mean the Judge thinks that both fighters performed equally. If one fighter wins more rounds clearly than another fighter, you could end up with 114-114 but still have one fighter outperforming the other. We see it all the time.

    Please wake up and smell the coffee and put your Floyd nuthuggery on the shelf for a minute. Floyd did what he had to do to win the fight, both Alvarez and Mayweather put on very skillful performances which is why it was so close and such a chess match.
     
  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Yes, Ross is crazier than Isal.
     
  6. Arpeggios

    Arpeggios Member banned Full Member

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    Even a fading GGG beats Saunders

    :pancarta:
     
  7. Robney

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  8. alexland

    alexland student of the sweet science Full Member

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    i read on another forum, a post-fight interview of BJS, in which he said that the ring was very big---bigger than he expected. I assume this means it was closer to 24 sq ft (max allowable)

    BJS comments also indicate that the ring size wasn't negotiated, which is odd given that Golden Boy, the lead promoter, is always trying to stack the deck. Clearly a smaller ring would have favored Lemieux--might not have changd the outcome, but it would clearly favored him, just as a larger ring favored BJS--and particularly if ring size wasn't specified in the contract, then Golden Boy could have held the fight on the smallest possible ring size (which i think is 20 sq ft
     
  9. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    The Wall of text bro.. Cant read all this lol! Get straight to the point.. Im working
     
  10. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    That too.. but you misunfersstood what I said.. I was talking about shadow111 saying Canelo gave Floyd problems... I dont know what problems hes refering to.. Cause in my eyes it was copmpletely one sided..
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that suggests that Golden Boy didn't stacking the deck then doesn't it, contrary to popular belief. If Golden Boy was "always trying to stack the deck" in favor of its fighters, then it certainly would have demanded a smaller ring to help DL.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Here you are seeking the confirmation of others to agree with you that I, shadow111, am crazy for thinking Canelo gave Floyd problems. How pathetic you are to try and convince others to agree with you about how crazy you think I, shadow111 am, because you're too much of a Floyd nuthugger to see that it was a damn close fight.

    mirkofilipovic's comment suggests to me that he didn't agree with you about your characterization of yours truly, and said Ross is crazier than IsaL rather than agreeing with you where you suggested I was crazy because I didn't think it was one-sided.

    mirkofilipovic has made some steps in the right direction, and here you are trying to turn him back to the dark side lol. How about instead of trying to convince people that I'm crazy for saying how close Canelo Floyd was (which is backed by all 3 judges scores, not just Ross's) why don't you actually go ahead and re-watch some of the rounds that we're talking about. If you're busy now with work, then watch it when you get a chance and make an informed comment when you get a chance to judge it for yourself. Part of the problem is that footage of the fight is not available at this time on the internet, so most people seem to be going from memory.
     
  13. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    It was one sided boy.. Wether you like it or not.. Clearly you must have a crush on the man if you think he gave Floyd problems.. Not biased towards any fighter here.. I call it like I see it.. I actually have respect for both fighters... Cheers
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All 3 judges disagree with you. It's plainly obvious how close it is to anyone without Floyd blinders on unless you have some kind of an agenda against Canelo. Your best argument is that you have a foggy memory of the fight or you were highly influenced by the pro-Mayweather Showtime commentary.

    We've seen a clear and consistent agenda against Canelo from a good amount of boxing fans, not just in the Floyd fight, but in Canelo's bouts with Trout, Lara, Triple G, as well, even vs Cotto for some fans, so I mean the lack of credit given to Canelo and outrage over scoring in his big fights from a good amount of fans isn't specfic to the Floyd fight. Many fans just simply refuse to give Canelo the credit that the judges give him. This kind of thing seems to happen everytime Canelo's in a big fight against a top opponent. I'm not a part of that at all, you don't see me coming on here crying and whining every time Canelo does well in a big fight. Canelo Mayweather was in fact Floyd's closest fight in years at the time and is on a very short list of one of Floyd's closest fights in his entire career. That's an accomplishment in it of itself, and if you object to that, then that's on you. I welcome a substantive debate about this fight and its many close rounds, but as you can see every time somebody challenges me on this when I get into the rounds, they seem to run away. That's pretty telling.
     
  15. Kahuna

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    That's hindsight though. Before the fight the talk was how BJS was going to gas, especially from all the vicious body shots the Canadian beast was going to land on the easily hit Englishman.

    Probably thought the big ring would help.
     
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