The Manny Who Destroyed Cotto vs ‘BUD’ Crawford At 145lbs. Who Wins?

The hell has that got to do with anything. Pacman was dominating JMM before he himself got knocked the **** out. Crawford is a counter-puncher like JMM, but hits harder and faster.

 

No. JMM takes risks and is willing to wade into the lion's den and walk through fire. JMM had 42 rounds and underwent a sophisticated doping program to finally land the money shot.

 

JMM, can certainly take a shot, Crawford can feint and dodge and counter as well.

 

Lesser fights than Crawford beat and went 12 rounds with pac. Wishful thinking at best. Pick em fight imo Crawford can box and bang and is a mean sob he's not easy work for anyone.

 

Crawford dazzles against basic ass C+/B- level boxers (Burns, Diaz, Postol, Indongo, Molina, Lundy, Jean, Dulorme). Pacquiao is a different story. ESPECIALLY the Cotto version.

 

Current Bud would do that to Cotto as well. Look what Trout did with Cotto, now add powerful counter punches to that.

 

Gamboa and Pacquiao don't fight the same. Weak rebuttal.

 

No, but what speed and angles Gamboa showed to Crawford greatly troubled him. Crawford was getting lit up.

 

Crawford WAS getting lit up. WAS being the operative word. Who won the fight after making the needed adjustments? Right... exactly.

My point still stands. Pac can be outboxed and Crawford is a very good boxer. Hell, he Bradley can do it, Pac's gonna have a really tough time with a fighter that's just as good of a boxer, but has better power.

 

Id have to agree. But we`ll never ever know.

 

This is true. And he's willing to do so because he's a much more refined counterpuncher than Crawford (with a craftier range of set-ups and a more nuanced puncher's palette) and trusts his ability in the exchanges. Crawford wouldn't, because his counterpunching is more reliant on fast hands, and he'd quickly grasp that the risk/reward ratio wouldn't favor him in engaging and comparing speed with Manny. JMM never knew the luxury of high-end speed, everything he did as a counterpuncher was accountable to his great boxing intellect and acute sense of timing - his serenity in a firefight, his ability to adapt his career ⅔ of the way through and become a crowd-pleaser, stems from that. The Marquez-Pacquiao bouts fostered the myth that Manny was easy to set up and time, and that's a disservice to Marquez' expertise. Tim Bradley could tell us about that, having studied the Marquez-Pacquiao fights for pointers yet struggled to find the same consistent, eye-catching offensive success.

It's by that same token that I think Bud goes the distance. He was willing to engage Gamboa in spite of being tagged with some fire early, because he was boxing a man unproven above 126, saw a high, delicate chin (no doubt aware of the Cuban's history of vulnerability) and felt it was only a matter of time and some tweaking to his stance before he reached it. I don't think he was especially concerned by what he felt in Gamboa's punches in those early rounds, either, just moderately respectful of it. A much higher caliber gun like Pac would give him more cause for caution, while also giving him less invitation (Gamboa fights with chin in the air and a low left), resulting in a back-pedalling Crawford who isn't going to be walking into Pac's power. I'd be wary of doubting Crawford's durability on the basis of the wobble Gamboa drew from him late on, given that Bud was a little recklessly committed to offense at that moment, sensing that Gamboa was on his way out, and took an unexpected shot with his hands down. That's just a lesson in not sleeping on a wounded animal. He's savvy enough to see out 12 rounds with Pacquiao, just not enough to win most of them. He can be contrary and nick a few in reverse gear, jabbing as a lefty, but I don't see the chops to make the necessary impressions as far as winning the fight goes.

Bud could have H2H joy with JMM, though. His is the kind of make-up that Juan finds his Kryptonite in at these weights, where he's shades less sprightly than he was at 126. Although Mayweather is one of the finest counterpunchers we've seen in a minute, he didn't beat Juan because he was a better trade counterpuncher (Juan is the purest and best of his era in that department), he beat him due to his ability to get off from way outside of Juan's wheelhouse. Great timing will gradually offset speed, but reach differentials can compound the puzzle that speed presents, and long, athletic, fleet-footed guys are trouble for a more bloated version of Marquez (having said that, Juan was still able to draw a lead from Mayweather and land a solid right on occasion, which speaks to the determination complementing his guile). Bradley was able to somewhat emulate Floyd's performance against Juan, albeit with a less emphatic degree of success, and Crawford would be a Derrick Gainer who can win.

 

I know that we are talking about a prime pac and a prime pac was still getting a boxing lesson by a faded Morales and he was going life and death with jmm. Crawford's resume isn't great but a blind man can see he's skilled and has the ability to give pac hell.

 

Arum kept Crawford away from Pac saying he’s not ready yet. Only now prepared to put him in with pac now that he knows pac is shot.

 

A past it pac was countering Floyd, and Floyd himself warned Crawford about pac saying it wasn’t easy. U less Crawford plans to run, hug, elbow every time pac closed in on him, I dunno how he would keep him off.

In his prime, fighters survived 12 rounds either by going into a shell or just outright running away from him, case in point Mosley and clottey. That or you have 3 fights to study him and your roused as hell. I don’t think Crawford could have even beaten that version of Mosley yet alone cotto.