Lomachenko's Win Over Riquitdeaux Is One of the GREATEST WINS of the Modern Era...

disagree. even if they are top fighters but they did not give their best like Marquez-Pac, Marquez-Vasquez types of all out wars. being tactical is being very cautious and then just quitting lacks determination to win and fighting heart. great boxing matches don't necessarily come from top level fighters nowadays especially that most are just after the money and self-preservation. those who are really dedicated to the sport bring out the best of their game.

 

The dirtiness of that fight is overstated. One big power right hand would have corrected Salido. That was the treatment, but Loma didn't have the cure. Yes all fighters have flaws some just have bigger ones than others. Lomachenko is a great fighter, but he has no power and is vulnerable to being walked down. He just is. Duran would have landed on Lomachenko for sure. Roberto has no reason to fear Lomachenko's power. If worst comes to worst he could just simply eat Lomachenko's punches if he wanted to in order to put a beating on Loma. The ring is only so big against a fighter who knows how to cut off the ring. Now finding somebody who can cut off the ring perfectly is rare, but when you find somebody who can; and then combine that with ridiculous skill, workrate, aggression, toughness, timing, feints, defense, inside fighting, body punching, footwork, power and speed then you have Roberto Duran.

 

Talent wise it is in an exclusive club in terns of two elite technical boxes meeting. Performance wise it was breathtaking. It was a unique fight everyone wanted but now it was one sided they pretend they didn't!

 

11 fights and 1 loss and he duran cant hit him and he beats duran. When will it stop? Duran would have been all over Loma's ass.

 

Don't think it was overstated. Regardless, he would have KO'd Salido in the next round.

I agree that the way to beat Loma is to cut off the ring and put ungodly pressure on him. Smother him. But until that is done we won't know. Duran would have tried but he would have failed.

You guys are putting WAY too much emphasis on the Salido fight, imo.

I don't dispute that Loma does not have one punch power. He lacks THAT kind of power. He KO's people through relentless pressure and evasiveness. All of these guys that have quit, quit for a reason. They knew they were getting KO'd late. No fighter quits willingly, especially great champions like Rigo or punchers like Walters. A string of fighters simply quitting like this is unprecedented.

 

Duran took a couple decent shots from Ray Leonard. A pretty hard hitting 147 pounder. He will walk right through Lomachenko. When will it end? I too rate Loma as p4p #1 right now. But this is getting out of control. You're telling me that a prime Roberto Duran at 130 or 135 pounds won't be able to pressure Loma? Why because Duran can't take a punch from Loma? Or Duran doesn't know how to cut off the ring?

 

Are you talking about Roberto "No Mas" Duran? That Duran? The guy who got so frustrated by Leonard that he quit on the stool?

No, I'm not telling you Duran wouldn't have been able to pressure Loma. He would have applied a lot of pressure and, as I stated before, that is the way to beat Loma. Relentless pressure. But until I see someone who is able to do it, I withhold judgment.

 

All this is fiction. An emotional crutch for people who have taken a disliking to a certain boxer. It's common place. In fact I myself can be guilty of it at times. However, ultimately tho every point you make in such argument is a moot one. So no ones a winner. You can argue to kingdom come... Duran v Loma outcome is sheer conjecture. No matter how much you force the issue you cannot claim you are right as it has no basis in fact or reality. Great fun sure but I prefer to talk about fights that actually have the potential to happen rather than discuss ones that don't, especially if said discussion is basically used mainly to discredit one of them! As is par for the course on forums.

 

No. It was just ok

 

You of all people should be thrilled with Loma's success, you constantly champion the lower weigh classes and now you have another E.E. to continually micro manage and complain about.

 

I'm not talking about No Mas Duran. You have a different version of Duran in mind.

As to the bolded I hold fighters to a different standard. They have to prove their greatness for me to rate them. I don't wait for somebody to humble them before I render judgement.

 

By the way, I greatly admire Duran. I always loved watching Duran fight. He brought it. I can't in my mind though picture Duran beating Loma. It's not like Loma is my boy. I just call it the way I see it and I think Loma picks Duran apart.

 

You're entitled to your opinion, but for me it's the opposite. I can't picture Loma beating a man who beat an undefeated Ray Leonard.

Duran has proved his greatness and Loma has not.

 

It's the same way every time, though. "Proved his greatness." Now, think about that statement for a second. You are talking about a guy who won two Olympic gold medals and was 396-1, avenging his only loss to Selimov twice. He had the balls to fight for the world title in only his second fight. He could have easily waited it out and won the title several fights down the road. He is great. If he never fights another fight, he is one of the greatest fighters of all time.

"Proved his greatness" is code for moving up in weight and fighting and defeating heavier competition.

 

Did you forget about the Duran who beat Leonard the first time?