Lomachenko's Win Over Riquitdeaux Is One of the GREATEST WINS of the Modern Era...

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  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's getting more obvious that some posters here just are either young, immature, or just highly impressionable.
     
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  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Of course not. He was awesome in that fight.
     
  3. Paranoid Android

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    Rigondeaux is the second greatest amateur after Lomachenko and a 2 time gold medalist. He was undefeated as a pro and humiliated Donaire, who himself was a P4P beast coming into the match. Rigondeaux was a P4P boogeyman and monster. Shamelessly ducked by LSC, Frampton, Mares, etc.. Most people would label him a master boxer w/ frightening power. No one was saying he was shot or past prime leading up to the fight. Many picked him to win.

    It's one of the best wins of the modern era.
     
  4. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Im not a huge fan of this analogy.

    Loma gave up roughly 15 actual in ring pounds to Salido.

    When Robinson gave up that much in ring weight he did in fact struggle, and lost to LaMotta and Maxim, drew with Henry Brimm. Robinson losing a close one to a Saildo level MW or LHW with a 15 pound advantage isnt a huge stretch.

    Loeonard and Duran were managed well enough to never be in that position, I dont think. So not that fair to compare.
     
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  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's your opinion you dope. Your opinion doesn't mean **** to the rest of the world. Grats on your opinion, you have a right to it no matter whether its based in reality or not. And FYI, a "boogeyman" at one weight class doesn't automatically make him a "boogeyman" two eight classes above. Common sense not found, LMAO.
     
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  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Loma was a heavy favorite for a reason, since Rigo was old, small, and overrated. Its still hard to rate Loma, since he hasn't faced a threat since losing to Salido. Mechado or Berchelt would be a step in the right direction for Loma if he stays at 130. If he moves up Easter or Linares would also be good competition, but Davis would just be another handpicked tailor made opponent.
     
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  7. Nay_Sayer

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    Didn't Lomachenko LOSE the Salido fight? Yet you Flomachenkos want us to believe that Loma beats the guy who handed Sugar Ray Leonard his first professional loss? Please excuse me while I....

    LMMFAO

    You Flomachenkos are a delusional bunch...
     
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  8. tinman

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    Inaccurate comparison. Robinson was outweighed by 16 pounds on the scales. Loma was not. LaMotta is an ATG. Salido is not even close. Robinson avenged that loss 5 times. Loma did not.

    Robinson would have ripped Salido to shreds.
     
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  9. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No Rigo does not come in at 130 ish. He has never even rehydrated to 130, and probably doesn't even walk around at 130 when he is not fighting. He is and always was a blown-up bantamweight. Rigondeaux is 5-3, and he rehydrated to 130 fully dressed which means he put no weight on at all. Lomachenko rehydrated to 137 12 hours before the fight he was probably at least 142 in the ring.

    In other words the 12 lbs. between the two is roughly what it would have been between Crawford and Lomachenko, with only one inch in height, and Crawford, Lomachenko and Arum all three, laughed that fight off as ridiculous.
     
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  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But size don't matter bro?
     
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  11. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't disagree, but both fights were **** set ups. Only one was marketed that way.
     
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  12. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Who's micro-managing? If he is in fact, the greatest fighter since Ali was in his prime as his promoter says, people want to see evidence. That was 45 years ago, there have been a lot of great fighters. Uncle Bob is talking about fighting Salido again, Beltran, Pacquiao? are you ****ing kidding me, these guys are all 40 years old!
     
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  13. The Akbar One

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    Not sure that Lomachenko would have only one loss had he come up in the Cuban amateur system. Some of you are using humiliated too liberally. What did Donaire have to be humiliated about? He lost to another top level guy, and thanked him for the beautiful boxing. Did you mean Arum was humiliated? Sure Rigondeaux is a master boxer, with sharp, bone fracturing power, but he was a 122 pound master boxer, and small for that weight class as well if you compare his size to that of his opponents at 122. If you didn't see people discussing his age, and losing a step, you weren't paying attention. I stated in several threads on here that he would have trouble with Lomachenko's quick feet, as he had trouble closing the distance a couple times against D!ckens, before he broke his jaw. He was noticeably not the Rigondeaux from the Donaire these last couple years.

    It's a win with an asterisk due to the fight happening at 130. Rigondeaux wanted it there, but you have to be honest. Rigondeaux at 5'3, was three or four inches shorter, and probably 10 plus pounds smaller in the ring. We don't know what kind of win it is. As Rigondeaux had only fought a few rounds over the last few years at 122. Even if he goes back down to 122, and beats the **** out of a couple dudes, it still isn't a great win, being that he was two weight classes smaller, and 45 years old. Now if Rigondeaux took a couple fights at 130, and gave dudes beautiful boxing, then we could say, man, that is a good win. They didn't even showcase him against a top 10 guy at 130 to build the fight up though.
     
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  14. VG_Addict

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    Rigo was always overrated. He hadn't done **** in 4 years and was living off his win over Donaire.
     
  15. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Amen, I have a hard time telling when guys are trolling and when they are being serious.

    It was just two years ago that GGG was beating Tyson:

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/mike-tyson-vs-ggg.565664/[/url]

    ...and Kovalev hit harder than Joe Louis...

    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/who-hit-harder-sergei-kovalev-or-joe-louis.597680/[/url]

    Now they struggle to draws with protected 5'8 guys, and bounce punches off super-middleweights for 21 rounds.

    This silly **** always ends badly.
     
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