For Chenko to equal Duran.

Duran started his career at 126 and was at his best as a lightweight.

He moved up, at 5-7 to fight at welterweight. His first fight was Monroe Brooks. who was 40-4 and had had a title shot at 140. Brooks was 5-10. I would compare his skill to Victor Postol. Knocked Brooks out in 8.

Then he fought Carlos Palamino who was hugely popular boxer back in the early 80's. Did a lot of movies and stuff. I would compare him to a young Broner. Palomino was 31-2-3, and had just gone 15 SD loss to Wilfredo Benitez.

Then he fought Sugar Ray Leonard, the best welter in the world, and one of the best at all time, at 147. Ray was 5-10. Duran won a decision.

The there was the ill-fated rematch, which Duran agreed to right away. And took place 5 months later. I would equate Leonard with Spence, just because Crawford is too small, but SRL would have destroyed either one of them.

The he fought Wilfedo Benitez at 43-1-1. Youngest world titlist ever, hall-of famer at JMWT! Keep in mind, Duran was 5-7. Benitez was 5-11. I would equate Benitez to Lara.

Then he knocked out Pipino Cuevas, another verry popular Mexican fighter who I would compare to Brandon Rios.

Then he fought Davey Moore, arguably the best young fighter in the world at the time 12-0, Olympian 5-11 160. And WRECKED HIM. Ended his career. I would say Moore was a bit like Charlo.

Then he fought the one and only Marvin Hagler. One of the five greatest middleweights ever in his prime. Very Close decision loss. I would say that Hagler is like GGG.

The he fought the one and only Thomas Hearns. 38-1, his only loss to Leonard in one of the greatest fights ever. Duran was totally out of his league and got coldcocked in 2. I would say Hearns most closely compares to Jarret Hurd, although my fingers just got numb writing this.

OK, so if Chenko fights:

Postol
Broner
Spence x2
Rios
Charlo
Golovkin
Hurt

over the next 5 years and goes 4-4 I will give him all the props of Duran. Now, let me tell you, NONE of those guys above really matches up with guys Duran fought, except maybe Charlo to Davey Moore, but I think it's somehting to shoot for.

 

I don't have a problem with "fighters" doing it, I have a problem with "the best fighter since Ali in his prime" doing it."

If Lomachenko was some guy from Peru and had done what he has done in his first 11 fights, yeah, great start!

This guy won the world title in his 3rd fight, and had a GREAT first 14 fights. He ain't in the hall of fame.


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Guy didn't fight in junior divisions back then unless they couldn't cut it at one of the original 8. There was no money or prestige in it. Duran, for instance jumped right over 140, never fought for the title, it was a waste of time. He even turned his nose up at a fight with Arguello. Even Shane Mosely jumped over 140 15 years ago.

During Hagler's time they weighed in on the moring of the fight. Marvin was ususally about 157 on fight day and probably 160 in the ring. He was really a JMWT at best. The SMWT division was started when Marvin was 30 and there were a bunch of mediocre fighters who held the belt, including Roger Leonard RAY LEONARD'S BIG BROTHER! And Fully Obel, who Marvin had already KOed twice.

Michael Spinks and Dwight Qawi begged Marvin to move up to 175, but Marvin wasn't stupid, Qawi as a washed up coke addict ended up fighting GEORGE FOREMAN and walking through his punches for 7 rounds, and Spinks was 6-3.

 

Duran and Rigondeaux were about the same size, both 5-7 with a 5-6 reach. At 26 Duran had his third fight with HALL OF FAMER Esteban De Jesus. It was the rubber match, he was 134 with a same day weigh-in. He was probably 138 in the ring. Lomachenko was 137.5 the day of the fight against Rigo. He was probably 141-142 in the ring.

Duran put weight on in 1970's style; by eating and drinking too much, and because he wanted to fight the best in the world. He moved up in weight to fight Leonard because he thought he could be the American golden boy. And he did.

People think I am racist or whatever, I'm not and I don't care. I like Lomachenko, he's a good fighter, greatest amateur ever and has had a good START to his pro career. Comparing him to Duran is an insult to Duran who is still alive.