Mike Tyson and adversity

That’s why I drink apple juice because OJ can kill you.

 

Says who, the jury thought not.....

 

To add, She had previously accused someone of **** before as well.

 

The whole world has all the facts and details, interesting......

 

False accusations, even if she did does that leave her open to **** in the future?

 

I don’t completely disagree with you. In fact I have never completely disagreed with you. I just think you’re overly sensitive to any criticisms of your idol, regardless if the criticism is based in fact or opinion. Now to your points.

I have never seen/heard anything about Atlas trying to steal Tyson away from Cus. If you have credible evidence, I’d like to see it. However, you should know that I don’t consider Kevin Rooney to be a credible source.

Atlas has said that he didn’t agree with Cus’s willingness to overlook Tyson’s character flaws. From what I’ve read, this is the issue that resulted in Atlas’s removal/departure from Tyson’s team. Cus knew what he had with Tyson. Cus’s advanced age and his prolonged exile from the sport made him a desperate man by the time Tyson came along.

I already acknowledged Tyson’s strength of intimidation is a trait every fighter wishes they possessed. Im not sure I’d believe any fighter who disagreed with this statement. Prime Roy Jones is the only other fighter who comes to mind as having possessed this attribute.

I won’t argue which Tyson opponents were scared or not. In fact, I’m willing to concede that scared is a overly harsh to describe a fighter who stepped into the ring to face Tyson. In Ruddock’s case I would say he was overly tense. Maybe the magnitude of the event got the best of him. I won’t say anything about the other fighters you mentioned, but I cannot give BONECLUTCHER a pass for his effort against Tyson. When you get a chance, or need a break from this debate, I’d like to hear your feedback of the post I wrote in the thread titled “Possible Stinkers”, where I gave a detailed description of a “fight” between BONECLUTCHER and McCall from the 2nd Lewis fight.

To attribute Tyson’s first 2 losses to him not being his best and past his prime ring rust is too much leniency. He lost to a 42 to 1 underdog. Even the less than best version of Tyson shouldn’t lose to a 42 to 1 underdog. It might be a little more forgivable if he got caught early by a lucky punch, but the fact that he got his @55 kicked from pillar to post looks downright ugly in a historical context.

As for the loss to Holyfield, nobody’s arguing that the post prison Tyson was as good as the pre prison version. That said, Holyfield opened as a 25 to 1 underdog and thoroughly kicked Tyson’s @55, not once but twice. You Tyson Apologists use that “he was past his prime argument” as the Centerpiece of any defense you have against his detractors. Nobody forced Tyson to go through the motions as a washed up fighter. He knew what he was doing and I have no sympathy for him.

FYI, I did not enjoy watching The Pugilist Specialist beat up Tyson. I felt sorry for him and hated to see the “Baddest Man on The Planet” from my childhood be completely at the mercy of Lewis. I’ve always believed Lewis could’ve stopped Tyson sooner, but I also believe Lewis wanted to hammer home his superiority over Tyson. Since I did not enjoy seeing a HOFer in Lewis beat Tyson, you can’t imagine how depressing and shocking it was to see Tyson lose to Williams and McBride, two fighters who couldn’t have carried his jock strap on his best day.

You can’t fault Douglas for basking in the glory of his achievement as the first man to beat Tyson. I remember lots of people believed Tyson would never lose a fight. I was one of them. Even though Douglas doesn’t have the same acclaim that Tyson does all these years later, his win as a 42 to 1 underdog is something he can be proud of.

You insufferable Tyson Apologists will never give credit to Tyson’s conquerors. Everyone who beat Tyson after prison beat a washed up version. Meanwhile Tyson got his @55 kicked by a DRUMROLL PLEASE...42 to 1 underdog and you guys claim that he wasn’t at this best. Shouldn’t Tyson in his prime (pre prison) ensure that he NEVER loses to a 42 to 1 underdog by anything other than a lucky punch. The previous statement is my attempt to acknowledge that anything can happen when a trained heavyweight lands cleanly. At the same time, Douglas aka the 42 to 1 underdog beat Tyson from pillar to post for approximately 30 minutes, save for the 13 seconds he was taking an 8 count.

 

Nope, but it does damage her credibility and creates doubt on the allegations.

 

Show me proof of these allegations please.

 

What's Simpson got to do with Tyson.......

 

No but what the hell gives you the impression he wasn't guilty?

 

What evidence suggests there's more to it?