Could Mike Tyson really beat Joe Frazier?

But he didn't have nowhere near the strength of Foreman to manhandle and put Frazier into prime position like George did.

 

He doesn't need to manhandle frazier, his combinations to the body and head will be enough.

 

Holyfield showed if you stay close to Tyson you can nulify his combinations, Frazier would be all over him like a rash.

 

Holyfield fought post prison Tyson who hardly threw any combinations other than a basic 1-2 to the head. Plus Holyfield used his head to butt Tyson and was on copious amounts of steroids and HGH.

 

And they're off........

 

Tubbs, Berbick tried that as well and paid the price. If you don't have a good chin, that approach will fail against Tyson

 

I fully believe Wass1985 that a 200 lbs man is going to push around and manhandle a 215-220 lbs man.

 

Truth be told Tyson wasn't hard to tie up and move around in there. What fight would you point to as a good example of him showing notable physical strength and the ability to manhandle someone in there?

 

He was a small man fighting bigger guys most of the time. Ofcourse they were going to use clinching tactics against him for survival.

 

Frazier isn't known for initiating clinches or moving around his opponents

He was a come forward pressure fighter

He will get smoked like his son against Tyson because of his style

 

Tyson and Holyfield were about the same weight yet Holyfield bossed him around in there something fierce. Manhandled him.

 

Roided Evan fields. Enough said.

 

Holyfield and Tyson were obviously both on roids so I have never gotten the complaints from Tyson's fanatical supporters.

As for the Tyson fans complaining about Holyfield being dirty, yes he was but so was Tyson. Larry Holmes accused Tyson of being dirty and I quote " I see a guy who throws elbows, I see a guy who butts and I see a guy who hits after the bell " staed Holmes when commenting about the Tyson vs Biggs fight.

 

Lol, you think Holmes didn't throw elbows, thumb opponents. Just watch Michael Spinks shout and scream at Holmes for his fouls.

 

Hi UFC, yes indeed Larry was a notorious thumber and a very good grappler-clincher.

Anyone who has followed boxing for a decent length of time would realise that nearly every great heavyweight champion in modern history was a dirty fighter in some way. Joe Louis might be the only great heavyweight champion who wasnt expert at some of boxing's dark arts.

Dempsey- yep.
Marciano-yep.
Clay-Ali- yep ( he was leaning on necks n putting on headlocks years before Wladimir ).
Frazier - yep, watch how many low blows Joe hits Ali with in their three fights.
Foreman - yes, yes, yes. Watch the Joe King Roman fight.
Holmes - yep.
Tyson- yep.
Holyfield-yep.
Lewis- yep ( Lennox was the master at the hit n hold uppercut )
Wladimir Klitschko - yep.

Its the endless whining and complaining from Tyson's fanatical supporters about Holyfields dirty fighting that makes me shake my head. I have never seen people with more excuses for their man losing.