Why do Marciano fans attempt to downplay Liston & Foreman?

Don't ignore it post it! I'll be very happy to jointly examine it with you and give my reasons for anything I have posted and you can point out any inaccuracies ,lies, mistakes I made . The ball is now in your court, and I very much hope you pick it up!

 

To beat a small swarmer you need to be

1. A fast stepping boxer who can hit hard enough to get his respect.
2. A bigger hard hitting guy who can catch him coming in, trade with him and outmuscle him inside.
Those names I gave I think can do that. Size alone won't do it as Humphrey Jackson[twice mentioned now],proved, you need quality and power as well.

 

I am and always have been a fan of Rockys since my teens! Do I need to paste my compliments to him?
"Great champion,great fighter,fine man,avoided no one,modest,unassuming ,ducked nobody, great fight commentator,huge heart,tremendous will to win,,unparalled determination. "


Any single poster made more complimentary comments about him? If they have NAME THEM!
Some on here are full of ****!

ps I've now voted.Poll is now 9-4!

 

Its like when fans of the Beatles attempt to subtly downplay the legacy of The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band. It's transparent, however much they try to disguise the agenda.
They always try to shift the debate back to The Beatles v The Rolling Stones, that old diversion. It's been going on for decades now.

Whether The Beatles were overrated or not is besides the point. The fact of the matter is, even IF they are the GOAT when all things considered, they can't be evaluated next to The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band without coming off looking a lot lesser than they could have been.
It's just one of those things.
Put those two bands side by side, live, or track for track, studio album for studio album, and by any analysis of musical value you choose, The Beatles come off second best. Blown off the stage, to be honest.

So Beatles fanatics are always snidely attempting to downplay The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band but never directly mentioning the elephant in the room, ie. The Beatles gross stylistic disadvantage.
They'll just throw in some downgrading comments about The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band at any opportunity and act like it has nothing to do with their obvious Beatles nuthuggery.

I don't know how Bummy Davis stood on that particular issue - ( I wouldn't like to make any firm claims vis-a-vis Bummy, The Beatles and The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band) - but if you look through the threads you'll notice he hasn't been around since the last time I mentioned it. And that perhaps speaks for itself.

 

I would doubt that.

 

Makes me wonder whether Ali fans might be going around downplaying Marciano...
Because, let's face it ...
Marciano woulda been a nightmare opponent for The Greatest .

 

Chronologically
Jeffries
Johnson
Dempsey
Tunney
Louis
Ali
Liston and foreman both excellent both too flawed to be great

 

Only because the Marciano cheerleaders are far more ridiculous than the Foreman fans on this forum.

Foreman cheerleaders: "Foreman hit really, really hard. Harder than any other man who ever lived."

Marciano cheerleaders: "Marciano hit really, really hard. Harder than all but a handful of men who ever lived. He was also fast, defensively gifted, extremely smart, blessed with superhuman strength for his size, technically impeccable, and very hard to hit. If he didn't run 10-15 miles every day and starve during training camp, he'd have been the same size as Mike Tyson. It is a grevious insult to suggest that any non-'ATG' could ever beat him. 49-0!"

 

Who said anything about you?

 

Again, you have to look at who is more proactive in pushing their agenda.

You cant say that the Marciano cheerleaders are unreasonable, just because you disagree with their counterargument!

 

I am sure that 2018 will be the year when we finally achieve consensus on the Marciano issue.

 

I thought this was about a guy who dont post here no more, who happened to be a fan of Marciano and critical of Foreman.

Not how people pick in fantasy fights.