Are they the only fighters of the last 50 years who had 2 HOF careers from 1 man? Duran had a HOF career before he even left 135. He established himself as the greatest LW to ever live. Then he moved up to the higher weights and had another HOF career including beating Ray Leonard. You could take away all of his fights from 135 and below and he'd still be in the HOF. Pacquiao had a HOF career due to his fights with Barrera, Marquez and Morales in the mid 2000s. Then he moved up towards the end of the decade and had a 2nd HOF career. You could take away all of his fights from 130 and below and he'd still be in the HOF. This is insane.
Lots of fighters. Pick a date that splits their achievements, and if there are enough of them and they're good enough, boom!
I hate to say it..maybe Hopkins. The middleweight run is a lock. 1st Ballet stuff. The other run at light heavyweight can get a fighter in the hall, but maybe not in his first chance on the ballot.
The MW run actually was very weak when you take into account the reputation it has. It was just a long reign, but he actually lost to his only big name fighter at 160. I'm not counting WW's. He also lost to Taylor twice. The LHW reign is without a doubt not HOF worthy. He beat old Wright and old Tarver. He lost to old Calzaghe. Had a draw with Jean Pascal. Lost to Chad Dawson. Beat ancient Roy Jones. Got shutout by Kovalev and was knocked out by Smith Jr.
Floyd Mayweather 140 and below/147 and above. Holyfield at cruiser and heavy. Michael Spinks at 175 and heavy. (Almost every lineal heavyweight champion gets in.)
Mayweather would not be HOF below 140 or above just 147. At 130 and 135 his only notable fights are Corrales, Hernandez (Oscar Leftover) and JLC. And he arguably lost to JLC. Above 147 all his best wins are against small fighters or old fighters. In conjuction he built a HOF career. But his work below 140 or above 140 does not stand alone for HOF.
Of course you don't dispute it by breaking down the resume you just give some generality. Which is deflection 101.
Go make a list of undefeated lineal two division champs with double digit title fights who did not make it to the HOF and get back to me. Floyd did that twice. After that, go fantasize about a menage a trois with Erik Morales and Pacquiao.
wow.....you know if you actually like boxing...no matter how you FEEL about a boxer...you at the very least acknowledge their achievements and talent...sheesh
Welterweight/Jr. Middleweight Two time lineal champ at welterweight, never lost, unified against his number one challenger (albeit after the fact); unified at 154 beating an heir apparent in the process. Monzon had a similar body of work (with his best wins coming by and large against smaller and/or older fighters) and made the HOF easily. Mayweather at 147-54 does enough to get in, I think. Below: Two division lineal champ, undefeated, defeated his number one challenger in Corrales, along with a long reigning 130lb titleholder who had not been previously defeated at that weight. Throw in future titleholders in Chavez and Hernandez, along with a perennial contender in Manfredy and he probably gets in fairly quickly.
Your not breaking my heart. Haha I never really liked Hopkins, because he is unbelievably dirty. With a fair Ref, he could of been DQ several times.
Upset wins over Pascal, Tarver, Pavlik and Cloud. Pretty impressive for a guy in his 40s. Not counting HOF welterweights? Well Trinidad was the strong favorite going in. All in allm you are being a bit way too critical.