What do you guys think of weight lifting?

"since the mid 20th century" - Yet they still seem to be the gold standard. Wonder why?

What on earth are you rambling on about with talk of pipes, water heaters etc?

YOU sound like you need to go back to school, you utter buffoon!

Oh, and you username is absolutely pants.

 

The only answer you have given me for who the strongest man on the planet is, is Kali Muscle.

That pretty much sums up your logic.

 

But you just said that they were the standard since forever. Did time start back in the 1950s?

Like I said you're still in middle school so you never had to work a physically demanding manual labor job that required repeatedly lifting heavy objects from awkward positions such as water heaters, pipes, etc.

You're saying this as if I told you previously that you need to go back to school. Actually if you had appropriate reading skills you would see that I told you you're still in school.

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No, my name is Mr.DagoWop.

 

You're on ignore, so did not read.

 

Lol.
Because you’re lifting something heavy from the ground to your body, or above your head using every muscle in your body. In both you’re putting something heavy as **** on your back and using your legs to move it. In training they do other movements as well obviously.
If you’re strong in those sports then it’s obviously transferable to everything else you do. You’re not going to find anyone working in construction anywhere near as strong in any movement, in comparison to someone who is elite in those sports.

 

You can make claims all day you want but unless there is actual data to back it up then it doesn't mean jack.

 

Hahaha
What data would mean anything to you? If you get stronger you get stronger, if you understood the basics about your nervous system or movement then you would understand why nobody would be dumb enough to waste time doing a study on the transfer of strength in the main lifts to construction work.
Pick up a basic physiology textbook and look at the adaptations to strength work. They are systemic changes to your nervous system and your peripheral nervous system from any sort of heavy lifting, there are changes to your tendons and your bone density.
The outrageous claim here is your implication that strength training wouldn’t transfer to everyday movements/construction work. That is absolutely moronic, and saying that’s not hyperbole. Your claim is that using your muscles/nervous system to lift something heavy off the ground wouldn’t have any transfer to lifting something heavy off the ground (because different grip derp). You would need to explain how that’s possible, and provide evidence that there are sorts of strength that have no transfer to other strength movements. You can’t do that, because that’s not possible. The onus is on you to back up your preposterous claims.

 

You're literally making claims then justifying them by saying "Well just check any ol textbook haha"

You're wrong.

 

I’m not making claims, you are. Actually grab a textbook and look at the specific physiological adaptations to any resistance training, and then try and tell me how they are specific only to an exact movement. Resistance is resistance and your body adapts to it. If you’re using the same muscles and doing similar movements then it is impossible for there not to be transfer.
Justify your claims. You think there is a difference between using your legs and hips to move a weight off the ground, and using your hips and legs to move something at a construction site. A load lifted is a load lifted, your muscles use their leverage and contract to produce force to overcome inertia. What you are claiming goes against basic physics and physiology. So again, justify your preposterous claims. Explain to me how your muscles can tell the difference and adapt differently to 100kg of steel in a gym vs 100kg of steel on a construction site, using the same muscles and movement. To anyone with any sort of intelligence it’s blatantly obvious that you are making ridiculous claims based on some sort of irrational bias rather than anything factual or objective.

 

To get bulky enough to actually cause muscle architecture to detract from force production you would have to look like a Mr. Olympia. Lifting weights is just as effective as stretching for increasing range of motion, and more importantly from an injury resistance perspective you are creating strength in that range.
Muscles feel tight and fatigued when they are worked, that doesn’t actually mean you have tightened up when you perceive that.
If you regularly lift weights you lose that tight feeling and you feel the advantage in everything you do.
Boxing is such a traditional sport that it really struggles to keep up with athletic development. Every serious athlete lifts weights, honestly you’d be a fool not to. Not just for strength and power, you improve endurance, coordination and skill learning as a side effect.

 

How on earth would bodyweight have zero resistance? You are using your muscles to move a load, that is a measure of resistance you have to overcome.

 

This is correct.

 

Getting stronger is largely a matter of getting more efficient at doing what you’re doing.

 

That would be based on individual leverage, when you’re at the uppermost limits then small things make a big difference. The guy with the strongest Squat is still going to have a ridiculously strong deadlift, even if he doesn’t train his deadlift at all.
Strength is strength unless you’re talking about tiny percentages in the most elite. That’s not relevant to what anybody is talking about here is it.

 

You are right, bodyweight exercises are better for beginners and weaker people. For experienced athletes and people with some training behind then you need to use weights to progressively overload, even doing pistol squats and one armed push ups isn’t enough to overload at a certain point to increase maximal strength.
To be actually strong you need to lift weights, period.