Naming the Tiers of Current Fighters

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  1. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Not sure if the ESB community is interested in discussing this but I have always rated current fighters along the following guidelines:

    Hall of Famer- Fighters on their way to Canastota.

    Elite- Top 50 -100 Pound for pound guys building towards greatness.

    World Class- Top contenders, usually the top 10 or 12 in each weight class.

    Journeymen- Fighters that are put in front of either the world class guys coming off a loss or guys with world class potential as a test or stay busy fight.

    Club Fighters- The guys with many more losses than wins.

    I would love to hear how the community names and structures their tiers.
     
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  2. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Is “Gatekeeper” a term you use?
     
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  3. uppercut_to_the_body

    uppercut_to_the_body Well-Known Member Full Member

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    prospect?
     
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  4. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not much and kinda random.


    Hall of Famer- Manny Pacquiao, Roy Jones, James Toney and Roman Gonzalez

    Elite- Terence Crawford, Vasyl Lomachenko, Oleksandr Usyk, Naoya Inoue, Errol Spence, Gennady Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez, Juan Francisco Estrada, Mikey Garcia and Sergey Kovalev.

    World Class- Andy Lee, Jesus Rojas, Kohei Kono, Petr Petrov and Dillian Whyte.

    Journeymen- Carlos Takam, Rey Loreto, Luis Collazo amd Caleb Truax.

    Club Fighters- Darnell Boone, Renald Garrido, Evgeny Orlov and Michael Sprott.
     
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  5. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd describe journeyman as what you have for club fighters and call the journeyman category "gatekeeper"
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Lot of space between 50-100 and HOF bound there?
     
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  7. Phelps-Brady

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  8. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Andy Lee and world class haven't belonged in the same sentence for a while. He's degraded to UK domestic level in my opinion. No way in hell Lee is World Class, but Takam is a journeyman. lol. Caleb Truax is also world class, he justbeat the pretty boy slapper with the fine sister. Darnell Boone would be considered a journeyman.
     
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  9. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Tiers are for cry babies! :crybaby2:
     
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  10. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Wilder= pretender
    Canelo= protected
     
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  11. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    There are champions and bums that's where the line in the sand is drawn
     
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  12. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    I like this.
     
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  13. GolovKing

    GolovKing ESB Since 2006 Full Member

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    Yes, thank you for the reminder.
     
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  14. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I'd narrow elite to top 10-30 p4p if world class is going to cover the top 10 of each weight class. Too much overlap between the top 100 and the top 170 fighters otherwise.
     
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  15. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Where is Nichols at?
     
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