Most popular with judges/immune to losing decisions: Saúl Álvarez, Danny García, or Jessie Vargas?

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Canelo, or Swift...or Ruthless?

  1. Saúl Álvarez Barragán

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  2. Daniel Óscar García

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  3. Jessie Vargas

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  1. IntentionalButt

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    Of these prominent Latino boxing world champions, which has the biggest reputation for either gift decisions or excessively/questionably favorable scorecards (regardless of how they affect outcomes)?

    Saúl Álvarez Barragán
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    Got controversial, extra-friendly treatment from judges (in the eyes of a majority or sizable minority) versus:
    • Gennady Golovkin (Adalaide Byrd's card) - I had it 115-113 Golovkin.
    • Miguel Cotto (Dave Moretti's and to a lesser extent Burt Clements' and John McKaie's cards) - I had it closer to 116-112 or even 115-113 for Canelo. Result the same but those cards were too wide.
    • Amir Khan (Glenn Trowbridge's and to a lesser extent Glenn Feldman's cards) - I think I had it like 49-46 or 48-47 Khan, as did most.
    • Erislandy Lara (Levi Martinez's and to a lesser extent Dave Moretti's cards) - I had it 116-112 Lara
    • Floyd Mayweather Jr. (CJ Ross' and to a lesser extent Dave Moretti's cards) - I had it, as everyone knows, a shutout for Mayweather.
    • Austin Trout (Stanley Christodouou's and to a lesser extent Oren Shellenberger's and Rey Danseco's cards) - I had it 114-113 for Trout.
    • Alfonso Gómez (Alejandro Rochin's and to a lesser extent Ray Corona's and Max DeLuca's cards) - I had it 47-47 as of the stoppage.
    • Lanardo Tyner (all three cards - judges' names unknown) - while Canelo deserved the nod it was by no means a shutout, nor even 119-110. More appropriately in the 115-113 neighborhood, with a draw reasonable enough. Dead serious. This one is on YouTube, go check it out.
    • Larry Mosley (Ray Corona's and to a lesser extent Jerry Cantu's cards) - see Lanardo Tyner. Another forgotten early test for Canelo which he nearly failed. This one is also up on YouTube. Corona's scorecard is a joke.

    Decisions that I have no problem with: Matthew Hatton, Shane Mosley, JCC Jr., etc.


    Daniel Óscar García
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    Got controversial, extra-friendly treatment from judges (in the eyes of a majority or sizable minority) versus:
    • Keith Thurman (Kevin Morgan's card) - I had it 116-112 Thurman.
    • Robert Guerrero (all three - Rey Danseco's, Max DeLuca's and Steve Weisfeld's cards) - I had it 115-113 García, which is a minor enough quibble since the official judges only had it a round wider.
    • Lamont Peterson (Kevin Morgan's and Steve Weisfeld's cards) - I had it 116-112 Peterson.
    • Mauricio Herrera - (Carlos Colon's and Alejandro Rochin's and to a lesser extent Gustavo Padilla's cards) - I had it 116-112 Herrera.
    • Lucas Matthysse - (Glenn Trowbridge's card) - I had it 114-112 García. Again, minor quibble, just a round off, but still don't see another round to budge García's way from my card.
    • Erik Morales I - (Samuel Conde Lopez's card) - I had El Terrible winning three or four rounds, IIRC.
    • Ashley Theophane - (Gerardo Venzor's and to a lesser extent Raul Valencia's cards) - I had it tight but clear for Theophane last time I watched it, scored it a draw once.
    • Nate Campbell - (Glenn Trowbridge's and Duane Ford's and to a lesser extent Al Lefkowitz's cards) - I had it 96-94 García.

    Decisions that I have no problem with: Zab Judah, Kendall Holt, etc.


    Jessie Vargas
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    Got controversial, extra-friendly treatment from judges (in the eyes of a majority or sizable minority) versus:
    • Emanuel Dapirdran Pacquiao - (Dave Moretti's card) - I had it 118-109 Pacquiao.
    • Timothy Bradley Jr. - (Max DeLuca's and to a lesser extent Kermit Bayless' cards) - I had it 117-111 Bradley.
    • Anton Novikov - (Burt Clements' and Dave Moretti's and to a lesser extent Glenn Trowbridge's cards) - I had it 114-114.
    • Khabib Allakhverdiev - (Robert Hoyle's card) - I had it 115-113 Vargas but on rewatches have scored it a draw or 115-113 Allakhverdiev.
    • Ray Narh - (Adalaide Byrd's and Dave Moretti's and to a lesser extent Jerry Roth's cards) - I had it 95-94 Vargas, but only gave Vargas the last round 10-8 due to protocol, despite saying in my RBR post on the night that I thought Narh won the other 99% of the round. Make it 10-9 Vargas instead and I have it a draw, 94 apiece.
    • Wale Omotoso - (Gwen Adair's and to a lesser extent Jonathan Davis' and Fritz Werner's cards) - I had it 95-94 Vargas with no further budge room for Vargas on my card (yet could easily find a round to swing Omotoso's way to make it 95-94 for him)
    • Aaron Martinez - (Richard Houck's card) - I had it 97-93 Vargas.
    • Vito Gasparyan - (Al Lefkowicz's and to a lesser extent Richard Ocasio's and Glenn Trowbridge's cards) - I had it 96-93 Vargas.
    • Steve Forbes - (Adalaide Byrd's card) - I had it 98-92 Vargas; academic but Forbes definitely had two hard-earned rounds.
    • Jose Manuel López - (Patricia Morse Jarman's and to a lesser extent Duane Ford's cards) - I had it 95-95 López

    Decisions that I have no problem with: Aaron Herrera, Antonio DeMarco, Lanardo Tyner (although he did make Vargas work hard for his rounds, numerically it was still a 9-1 rout), etc.
     
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  2. Boxing Truth

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    of the three, Canelo.

    The boxing authorities owe him big time, for staging a FIXED FIGHT against Floyd at Haymon, ODLH, and Vegas's instigations, because they needed to preserve the then upcoming Floyd vs Pac multi-million dollar event, so Canelo was forced to faked it and "throw the fight" against Floyd.

    So now Vegas is returning the favor back to Canelo.


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  3. pistal47

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    :lol:
     
  4. Boxing Truth

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    don't forget, Al Haymon Protection Services:

    1.) Keith Thurman
    2.) Adrien Broner
    3.) Peterson Brothers
     
  5. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just threw a dart at the board, honestly didnt even care to see who it hit. Id love to see all three get worked though, the treatment these dudes get.....
     
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  6. Boxing Truth

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    Just watch the replay and you'll see Canelo miss punches on purpose, and sometime hit Floyd on the belt area and didn't want to hit Floyd solid.

    Canelo missed on purpose, because he was bribed to lose.

    Just search the web for: Haymon manipulated Mayweather Alvarez
     
  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I will brother, as soon as my tin foil hat arrives in the mail.
     
  8. IntentionalButt

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    Spent my whole afternoon on this stupid thread and not a single like for my OP. :hang
     
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  9. just another guy

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    Oscar always has the judges in his pocket for Canelo.

    Incredible that he only had to win 2 actual rounds vs Mayweather and he would have gotten the decision.
     
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  10. Russell

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    Hey Butt, is Dashon Johnson in that .500 record thread of yours? Because he should be, and he's exactly 22-22 right now... :eek::hang
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Hell yes, Fly Boy is the salt of the earth type for whom I came up with my thread idea.
     
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  12. IsaL

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    So how many judges did he buy? And did Oscar get a refund since Canelo actually Lost?

    Stupid is as stupid does
     
  13. IntentionalButt

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    I hope the skimpy bullet point section hasn't prejudiced votes in Vargas favor as if he weren't on the exact same tier of judges' favoritism as the other two...
     
  14. just another guy

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    All of them.How else can you explain losing 120-108 quite clearly and on official cards being literally 2 rounds off a draw.Got close ones with Lara and Trout.Fact is he represents 85% of GBP business.Oscar always has the judges for him.
     
  15. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anybody who doesn't believe all three of these clowns haven't gotten multiple cooked gift cards, well, **** you. Seriously, just go away.

    I guess my dart hit Danny Garcia. Definitely cool with that.
     
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