Bruno could have beaten Tyson

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't Foreman go life and death with Ron Lyle ?
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Not old man Foreman for christ sake!
     
  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Didn't tyson get knocked out by james nobody douglas?
     
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  4. Azzer85

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    Didn't Foreman drop the WBA title which Bruce Seldon then got hold of?
     
  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Did not tyson get knocked the **** out by bums like danny williams and kevin mcbride in his 30s? Foreman was champion of the world in his 40s?
     
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  6. Azzer85

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    Axel Schulz is still waiting for his rematch.
     
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  7. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Well.. Foreman at 42 was better than tyson at 35...

    Anyway i like mike but if you talk i talk...
     
  8. Azzer85

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    At least Tyson didn't run away from Larry Holmes.
     
  9. Bokaj

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    The thing that is made out of the Bruno fight...

    I mean as for a somewhat difficult fight for a prime ATG, was it even Ali-Mildenberger? Louis must have had a half dozen fights as tough or tougher in his prime against opposition on a similar level.

    He floored Bruno almost directly and probably thought he was going fold like a laundered towel and therefore tossed caution to the wind a bit. Instead Bruno surprised him. But after a couple of rounds, Tyson wised up and started fighting Bruno more professionally. Soon after Frank was out of there after a brutal, trademark combo.

    So Tyson was sloppy for two or three rounds. So what? Is that even remotely surprising for someone who had beaten everyone with the relative ease he had? And when he realized he had to pull himself together he did just that.

    Is there any similar noise made about any other prime ATG that looked sloppy for a couple of rounds but still went on to win comfortably? Anything even remotely similar?
     
  10. janitor

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    The only way Bruno would could have beaten Tyson, is with a stick while he slept!
     
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  11. channy

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    At the time i knew Bruno would give Mike a good fight, he was confident etc etc

    I can't remember which Mag it was in, either BM RM or one of the others, i would have to dig it out, but there front page after the fight was, "Did the Bruno fight reveal Mike Tyson can be beaten".

    I though it did, it showed the way for others, they just had to have belief that they could win, they had to stand and hit Mike and hard, just like Frank did, watch the fight again and just watch Mikes legs when Frank catches him with the combo and final chop down left hook, he was very very shaky, and was not so keen to jump straight back in afterwards.

    Frank did catch him and showed great heart and courage, and if he could have just managed to nail Mike in the follow up and get him reeling it could have been over in that round...

    Mike knew this and went very cautious in his approach, Bruno too, they both had respect for each other.

    Mike though was quicker, i wouldn't say hit harder but was technically a better fighter, and Frank just couldn't cope with the onslaught when it came.

    The better man won, but it did prove that Mike was not a machine, and if you fought him and could hit him enough you would see a different fighter, he became the intimidated.
     
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  12. rski

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    I dont think so at all to be honest. Tyson was sloppy but in shape and very dangerous at times, he was in much better form than he was against Douglas.

    I think Bruno had a much better chance of beating 96 Tyson, he just couldnt drag the fight out long enough because of nerves. Although Tyson finished him quicker in 96 he was much more dynamic with his combinations in 89 and had that youthful energy, Frank just choked. but he was hitting Tyson as well in that fight.
     
  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Foreman ran from larry holmes? Hahahaha son.. You should research your information.... Was the team of holmes who was oferred to face foreman im 1976 and they wanted no part of george because holmes was not ready... Foreman retired in 1977 so tell me how the hell he avoided holmes? In the 90s? Foreman did not gain anything facing a finished fat stylist.. In fact holmes needed foreman and foreman did not need holmes. In any stage of the time where they could fight 1976 or the 90s. Foreman would have won for sure. By 1976 holmes was green he was not ready for george and in the 90s holmes was too static,foreman was patient ,had granite chin and great stamina.. 91 foreman beats 90s holmes.

    It is for you.

    [url]http://www.thesweetscience.com/articles-of-2005/1638-why-we-didnt-see-foreman-holmes-circa-1975-77[/url]


    By the way... Was tyson who avoided foreman


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  14. GALVATRON

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    Holmes tried getting fight with Foreman since the 80's before he even came back.

    It doesn't matter if Holmes wasn't ready in 77..

    Foreman fought far less fighters when Holmes was available in the 80's and 90's.

    There's no indication Foreman would have won that fight that's why he was stripped of the belt when refusing to fight similar tall jabber Tucker.

    I think the Jimmy Young fight gave us a view how difficult Holmes may have been.

    I would also say older Holmes made Holyfield look really bad , unlike when he used Foreman as a huge punching bag in 91.
     
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  15. Unforgiven

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    Well, we know mainly it's all because he lost to Douglas two fights (and 12 months) later.
    If he had lost to Holmes or Tubbs, people would be saying how beatable he had suddenly appeared in the Tucker fight 2 or 3 fights (and just a few months) earlier.
     
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