The Top 10 Middleweights since 2000.

Yes, good point. If CEJ wins the WBSS (he's the betting favourite) Saunders' stock goes up again too.

 

You've got guys listing Pirog over Sturm.

That's just wrong.

 

A lot of people are doing it by H2H ability, in which case Pirog may well beat Sturm.

But yeah, in terms of accomplishments you're completely right.

 

difficult


1.Hopkins // that's clear
2.Golovkin
3.Martinez
4.Pavlik
5.Taylor
6.Geale
7.Joppy
8.Abraham
10.Jacobs
11.Trinidad
12.Sturm

can't rate Canelo because he had only 1 fight inside the full MW limit same with Cotto
ranked on talent Pirog belongs in the top 5 but he has only 1 big win

 

Pirog would have whooped Sturm's arse, plain and simple. I could care less if Pirog had a short career, when Sturm was over in Germany fighting can after can, being a coward and refusing to fight guy's he thought were killers. Pirog also has a better win on his ledger. Winky Wright would have also beaten Sturm.

 

My ten, based on who was the best, not necessarily accomplishments, though that counts too.


1.GGG
2. Hopkins
3. Martinez
4 .Pavlik
5. Taylor
6. Canelo
7. Jacobs
8. Abraham
9. Pirog
10. Strum

 

Bjs did ...barely....win an appalling scuffle against a very green Eubank at the time.
Leaving aside how awful the fight was....beating thatversion of Eubank counts for very little. Billy had vast amateur experience and was faaaar further along in his development at the time than eubank was then.

Did you see Sturm v zbik?
Zbik was leagues better as a boxer than Lemieux.
Sturm was excellent in that fight.

 

Winky was a light middle....and Sturm a very big middleweight.

 

The Lemieux win was his best by far CST.
Bjs barely...barely... scraped past the very limited lee...and also the very green Eubank.

As for you and buttsy sharing the same opinion.....they do say great minds think alike. Mind you they also say fools seldom differ!! I'll give you two the benefit of the doubt on this one and assume it's the former....

I hope that ib meant GGG has the best resume including maravilla...not "post" Sergio.....and in saying that I'm a big admirer of Sergio....but I have no doubt GGG is the better of the two, high praise indeed.

 

Ffs his stock doesn't go up if Jr wins WBSS, do you consider the can that beat Pacman yonks ago atg because he
beat him?

You are an annoying mofo sometimes, when did you start watching boxing?

 

Top 10 middleweights since 2000
1. chavez jr
2. peter quillin
3. Canelo
4. Fernando Guerrero
5. Gab Rosado
6. Miguel Cotto
7. Winky Wright
8. Felix Sturm
9. Abraham
10. BJS

 

Im surprised Sturm isnt rated higher. He was a 4 time MW champ who also became a SMW champ.
At MW he won WBO, WBA and IBF titles and was a winner of 15 MW title fights, 2 draws, 4 losses

 

hey if thats H2H then 3G should be above BJS at the very least, and at the most level with Canelo (having proved his equal).

 

While I agree Sturm lost some fights he also won many at MW in title fights.
Also look at some of the names he did beat like Schenk, Sylvester, Zbik, Barker.
There are also some Sturm fights that could have been argued for him like Geale, De La Hoya etc

 

Hopkins
Pavlik
abraham
taylor
Martinez
Golovkin
Sturm
Pirog
Jacobs
Saunders