Mayweather trades words with Sugar Ray Leonard

It's more about what you are basing your opinion on.. You have to watch the old fights of what is out there, watch film, read fight reports, look at ACTIVITY, resumes, expert/historian perspectives, the eye test, etc. .. stuff like that .. You really don't match Floyd to a RJJ because they are in different weight classes.. I mean saying Floyd is the best pure boxer of all time is a very strong statement considering he didn't take on a lot of risk and wasn't tested against some other boxers in their prime. He only had 45 fights in 18 years of healthy boxing.. That's bottom of the barrel when it comes to wanting to prove what you say you are ..TBE

 

Roy Jones might beat him?

 

That's exactly it. Calling himself TBE is just a baseless assertion that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I wouldn't call Sugar Ray Leonard TBE either but then it's not a claim he's trying to make. And Leonard, in my opinion, has as at least equally great achievements as Floyd and certainly faced the tougher opposition.

 

Willie Pep, Ezzard Charles, Pernell Whitaker and going way back you have Benny Leonard. You can make just as strong if not a stronger case for those guys.

 

Floyd is insecure about Ray. Floyd wishes he had the wins Ray had against Duran/Hearns/Benitez,Hagler. He just doesn't . Floyd handpicked a little too much.

 

Think i said before...Ray would have the reach, height, speed, and power advantage. He isnt a bad boxer himself, nightmare match up for May, who would have to turn pressure fighter to have a hope.

 

So you dont see Roy Jones' 40 pound weight advantage being a factor? Does May beat Lennox Lewis too?

I guess the upper weight classes are there to protect fighters from Floyd.

 

Leonard would destroy him.

 

Intriguing point that Floyd might be the best pure boxer of all time, but not at welter, though.

 

I agree 100% with this. I don't believe Floyd has the firepower or the length to make Leonard respect him. Just my opinion.

 

Roy Jones is naturally a bigger dude, but he did fight at middleweight

 

Actually what you're doing is stating a counterfactual conditional*, and it's an open question among logicians whether or in what sense counterfactual statements can ever be "true".

*A counterfactual conditional, in logic, is basically a "prediction" about what would happen (often in the hypothetical past) if some specific variable had been different. For example, "If Hitler had been killed on the front as a young soldier in WWI there would never have been any holocaust".

 

Yeah, that looks to be it in a nutshell.

 

Jones by his own admission was 180 in the ring as a MW.

Mayweather's heaviest in ring weight was 150ish in a past prime performance.

A 36 to 38 year old Mayweather giving up 30 pounds to to a 23 to 25 year old Roy Jones sounds like a winnable fight to you?


Mayweather's prime he was 140ish in the ring to Jones' 184. So not happening.