Gennady Golovkin vs. Saúl Álvarez - at last, IB's official RBR

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  1. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Guys, it is pointless to debate boxing when it's involved canelo or Latino with either Shadow or Isal.
    Now before these 2 get shitty with me, let me explain:
    Both canelo and GGG are elite fightes, they have 3 minutes to perform each round. Being elite, they will not just let their opponent doing their thang, without trying something to offset it. So obviusly all or some of the rounds will be closely contested and generally, you can make a case that one can win each particular round if you freaking scrutinise hard enough. That's what elite fighters do, there are always little things they do that if you only focus on them will make you think they won the round.
    If you are not agree with the consensus, maybe just admit you are a little bias. Nothing wrong with that cause we all are.
     
  2. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you give Canelo this round? They fought evenly for the first minute and then Canelo hardly throw a punch for 2 minutes? Really?
     
  3. boxon123

    boxon123 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is that so if one fighters fights for 3 minutes and the other fights for one?
     
  4. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Generally the more active one wins the round. He outworks the other guy.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'm not talking about Golovkin vs. Khan at 160 in real life. I mean Khan blown up to have the same naturally large MW frame as GGG, or GGG shrunk to be a natural welter.

    Khan would cautiously jab and use lateral movement and I'm not sure Golovkin would get to him with his power.

    Jacobs was supposed to have too weak a chin to go twelve with GGG, remember?
     
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  6. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    I still don't see it, khan is too defensive irresponsible when he attack. So I still think GGG will catch him in the later round. But I know what you meant.
     
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  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, but:
    a) GGG was concerned about Jacob's power (also Canelo too) and fought more cautiously than usual. Big Khan still isn't a big puncher.
    b) Khan is flashier than Jacobs but has less defensive lapses. I really doubt his ability to stay switched on for 12 rounds.

    Give Big Khan a chin transplant and that would make a world of difference.
     
  8. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    He was, but in hindsight this was maybe overstated. Khan's chin issue has a much larger evidence file than Jacobs'
     
  9. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    hmm I think shadow111 might be boxed ears magnum opus..
     
  10. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Hats off to Shadow on this thread. I dont agree with him at all on most the things he is saying on here, near enough nobody is, but he is fighting his corner very very well. I thought he was just trolling when he talked Canelo vs Golovkin but his opinions are rich in depth.

    This is a great thread. Nice one IB.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :thumbsup: Agreed, he backs everything up. I'm expecting flow charts soon. :lol:
     
  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I've always found it annoying when boxers pull that stunt. Conditioning is part of boxing, and pulling the wool over the judges' eyes by leaving a flashy impression over the last minute (or going all out in the first minute, blowing your wad and then just concentrating on negativity to stalemate your way to a subsequent two minutes of bland non-fighting) has always to me seemed a cheap trick. Still, though, some have employed it efficiently for various reasons.
     
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  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    As far as i remember the poll who win after fight the match said it all:
    Gennady Golovkin 322 vote(s) 91.0%
    Canelo Alvarez 32 vote(s) 9.0%
    But there is still a users with 10 username that put 10 post in 1 page trying to make a case for Alvarez winning this fight.
    The only result that could be given even if you are Alvarez fanboy is 116-112 and 115-113 for Golovkin.
    Golovkin beat him in all aspect, except the body punches, thats why Canelo has more Power punches landed, but was by small margin.
    And hes body punches was not something special, and it was obviously Head>Body punches.
     
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  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This type of closed-minded thinking is Golovkin fanboyism as its finest. "The only result that could be given" is for your favorite fighter winning 116-112 or 115-113.
    Golovkin beat him in all aspects besides body punches? How about the aspect of "landing the most bombs" how about the aspect of "slipping more punches" and "having better tighter defense"?

    Alvarez's biggest hardest punches were to the head. That's true.
     
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  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    More like common nonsense.

    Rounds 5-8 were not one-sided. Golovkn was busier in some of those rounds, Golovkin was coming forward in those rounds, Alvarez was backpeddling in those rounds, but that doesn't make the rounds one-sided.

    Round 5 was not one-sided for Golovkin at all. If anything, it was one-sided for Canelo over the first 2 minutes. HBO's punch stats had Canelo landing 4-5 more punches in that round. Canelo was clearly winning the first half of the round until the final minute when Golovkin upped his offense and may have stolen the round.

    Round 6 was not one-sided in favor of Golovkin, IB and several others scored that round for Canelo, and after watching it back, I can see why.

    Round 7 was not one-sided, but Golovkin was busier, he probably did enough to edge it with activity, but hardly one sided.

    Round 8 was certainly not one-sided, one of the closer rounds of the fight. Alvarez started the round strong landed several combos left hooks, right hands, jabs, etc. This was a back and forth round, Golovkin got some offense in towards the middle of the round and in the final minute Alvarez landed a huge uppercut possibly the best punch of the fight.

    There's simply no way a reasonable boxing fan could call that round or any of these rounds really one-sided lol. You're obviously a huge Golovkin fanboy to make such absurd statements describing close rounds as one-sided. I highly suggest you re-watch these rounds.
     
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