Prime Foreman Against Louis's Title Opposition. Does he make it 25-0?

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  1. Fergy

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    So we have the prime George that destroyed Frazier ,against Louis s title opponent s ? Does he make it through each and everyone undefeated ? If not, who gets him ?
    So from Braddock onwards?
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Of course... Too small guys and the decent sized guys are mediocre. Foreman beats all them and marciano included. The guys that could give him a few problems would be walcott but his chin was too weak to last long with foreman and charles was too fragile and small for george the samething with conn.
     
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  3. mcvey

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    I see it similarly with Walcott being the only real threat.
     
  4. Fergy

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    To look at the list of Louis opponents ,Braddock, galento ,old Max etc ,its frighting to think of the damage a peak Foreman could do to those guys. I don't see many of em making it past the first tbh .
    Walcott, as you mention , had the talent to trouble big George. The odds against him winning but you can bet he'll have Foreman struggling for many a round. Maybe even pull off the upset.
     
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    If Foreman could put ali against the ropes then he would have no problem cutting the ring vs walcott.the difference is that ali had a legendary chin and huge capacity to recover.walcott had crappy chin and the idea of George failing every shot is laughable.foreman by ko
     
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  6. Fergy

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    He didn't have a crap chin , he had a unpredictable Chin ... He could soak up some of the big bangers punches and yet be dropped by the lighter hitting guys. Trust me.. Jersey Joe at his BEST wouldn't crumble that easily. Unfortunate that by the time Jersey met Louis he'd clocked up so many miles, he'd have beaten the bomber.
     
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    Tommy Farr.
    First defense. Foreman loses a 15 round decision, gassing desperately after 9 or 10 rounds he bravely staggers on to last the distance.

    0 successful defenses.
     
  8. Fergy

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    Are you sure Foreman would go the distance with Tommy??
    Don't you see a proper ass kicking from Farr from the first ?
    Come on ..give Tommy some credit..
     
  9. Birmingham

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    I don't see Walcott lasting any longer than the rest tbh. Big George walks through all of them. The power is too much for the little guys, and could be a walk in the park for him !
     
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  10. Birmingham

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    Ali also has weight and strength over Walcott. Walcott isn't tieing George up like Ali could to avoid damage
     
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  11. mcvey

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    Walcott met a lot of bangers:
    Fox x2
    Rayx3
    Sheppardx2
    Gomez
    Baksi
    Murray
    Shkor
    If his chin was that bad he wouldn't have survived those fights.imo.
    Stopped 6 times in71 fights twice by Marciano once by Louis ,once by Simon,once by Fox,once by Ettore.
    You don't go 13 rds with Marciano, 26 with Louis, the distance twice with Sheppard, and the route with Ray x3, Gomez etc if your chin is crappy.
     
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    Mischievous?
     
  13. FastHands(beeb)

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    H2H Foreman would likely be favoured over all. JJW gives him the closest call probably, but to accomplish the feat of successfully defending the title over a 12 year period (with a 4 year gap) like Louis did takes a lot of consistency. George proved post-Ali he could be emotionally flaky (Ali emotionally dishevelled him utterly for years after imo), so who's to say that George would have possessed the emotional discipline to hold it together for that long?

    Walcott fought Louis the first time 10 years into Joe's reign. If Foreman was a similar age to the Louis who fought JJW in Dec '47 that makes him 33-34.

    The more I think about it, the more I think that JJW was capable of outfoxing a Foreman 10 years older than the one who smashed Smokin' Joe.

    So, in answer to the OP's question, no, I don't think George makes it & it's most likely JJW who takes him.

    There's a whole lot of supposition in the whole question though...
     
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  14. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Agreed
     
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  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    But.in the louis era there was no ali!! So sorry for all them