Prime Foreman Against Louis's Title Opposition. Does he make it 25-0?

Absoutely not. Foreman would ultimately slip, he was never as consistent or dominate as Joe Louis. Young, Peralta, Lyle, even past prime Ali were supposed to be gimmes for Big George.

And hes running into alot of cagey vets here.

Louis was the only man to do what he did for a reason. He beat some good to great fighters on a relentless schedule.

 

No in a word.

It's not that he isn't good enough to beat them individually.

It's just that the schedule, and the timescale, are almost impossible to match.

There is a reason why so few lineal champions have long title reigns.

The range of styles would be an issue as well.

 

Yeah Young who had just beaten Ron Lyle and had only lost one,[ controversial ,]decision ,[to Ali ,]in the last 4 years,and was the number 2 contender was a gimmee for George.

Ninety fight Peralta, ranked number 9, against 15 fight George facing his first ranked opponent who had just drawn with Bonavena was supposed to be a gimmee.
Ron Lyle who had just ko'd Earnie Shavers ,was ranked number 5, was a gimmee for George who was coming back from being ko'd by Ali.

What utter nonsense!

 

There was the bum of the month too. Foreman does a better job on the same opponents imo..Louis struggled with fighters that Foreman Banjo's, I cant say the same reversed !

 

The so called bums were often top 10 fighters and genuine dangerous contenders.

Louis broke the tradition of spacious annual or less title defenses against outstanding contenders or star caliber opponents, and this was met with criticism from traditionalists.

We, the educated fan in hindsight, should know better.

And I strongly disgaree Foreman does better against the same opponents, absolutely baseless conclusion. He does worse in many respects.

 

Pick 3 fighters from Louis's reign that you think Foreman would have a harder time with. We will take it from there ! Baseless conclusions are a major part of mythical match ups and outcomes, but we still do it as fans !

 

I am sure that Foreman would have done better against a few of Louis's opponents, but that is not the issue.

Replicating Louis's feat is going to depend upon consistency over a period of more than a decade, and against an enormous range of styles of elite fighters.

This is not Foreman's forte.

 

Louis just made them look like bums.

 

No, we all argue with base here. We dont pull predictions out of a hat. Get out of here, with that crap.

More than 3. Foreman would have to be consistent in 25 fights in just a few active years.

Farr, Schmeling, Conn, Pastor, and Walcott could be potentional stylistic threats.

Then X factors like Simon and Buddy, that could give similiar problems as Lyle.

We arent talking the very best Foreman going in night in and out. We are talking sustained dominance over these opponents over several years at a pace we never seen from him. Can Foreman beat all these men on his B or even C nights? Given he couldnt in his own era at a more controlled pace...i say...NO.

 

Galento may have surprised us and put Foreman on the canvas with his left hook. I wonder how hard he hit compared to Lyle?

 

Who cares?

The point is that Foreman would be getting bounced between a Young, and a Lyle, and not taking the rest cures that he was accustomed to between!

There would be no Roman figure as a warm up!

 

Can I have the elite fighters with the enormous range of styles then please ?? Its no great feat ko'ing bums(his words and majority of people around that time) every month and claiming their elite, when quite clearly they were not...Galento can land his left hook on Foreman all he wants, its bouncing off him. Lyle was a far better fighter than two ton tony. Joe louis's beard was not as strong as big Georges either !

 

Why were they called bums then ??? You have really thick rose tinted glasses on imo

 

So tell me janitor ... Who would have beaten George according to you?

 

Lmao