Max Schmeling v Jersey Joe Walcott Prime 4 Prime?

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  1. mcvey

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    Whom do you like?
     
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    Schmeling definitely.
     
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    Walcott would paint a picture out of Schmeling
     
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    Oh McVey a toughie this one.
    My head says schmeling but my heart says Jersey. I'll go with max scoring a late round s KO , but coming from behind to do so .
     
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    Jersey Joe
     
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    I havent made my own mind up on this!
     
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    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Walcott easily. If Baer gave Schmeling fits Walcott would give him nightmares
     
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    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    If we're talking about common opponents, Schmeling KO'd a prime Louis. Walcott lost twice to an old Louis. So Schmeling wins?
     
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    SHADAPBLAD Viscous Knockouts Full Member

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    Not
    Not really. The unorthodoxy and off beat timing of Baer won the fight. Walcott has unorthodoxy and off beat timing in spades.
     
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    No it didn't. Baer won because he bullied the smaller schmeling with legal and illegal tactics I don't think timing had much to do with it.
    As for the fight it's a tough matchup. Does Walcott's unorthodox rhythm throw Schmeling off or does Max's expert timing Catch and hurt Walcott.
    Style wise I see Jersey Joe as a very slight favorite although I rate Max as a better fighter
     
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    Walcott knocks schmeling out, t.k.o round 11

    Schmeling is clever and a smarter fighter but also kind of robotic in approach, Walcott would confuse him too much. I could also see schmeling studying Walcott and if he was able to understand him well enough he could beat Walcott
     
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    Walcott is much better jesus schmeling is another tokyo douglas.
     
  13. Jel

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    Not really. Schmeling was world champ before he ever faced Louis. He wasn't a one-hit wonder like Douglas.
     
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    Walcott wasn't even a Tokyo Douglas.
    He won the title in his 5th attempt !
     
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    In addition to Joe Louis, there was another heavyweight who faced both Schmeling and Walcott. Steve Dudas was a contender in the '30s and '40s who held wins over the likes of Bob Pastor. He fought Schmeling on April 16, 1938 in Germany in what was a warmup for Max's return go with Louis for the title in June, 1938. Dudas was KO'd in the fifth round. In 1945, in what would be his last professional fight, he fought Jersey Joe in New Jersey, again being KO'd in the fifth round. During my public school days, Steve Dudas was a school bus driver and maintenance man in my school system. I talked with him on boxing on several occasions, and how I wish I had asked him who would have won between them. In one of the times I spoke with him, it was at a boxing show in my home town, and also in attendance that night was Jersey Joe. All I can say about Dudas' opinion is that he did talk more about Schmeling. He told me that Max was a very smart fighter and as a man was very nice.

    It is a tough choice. I could see either one winning. Both had the necessary skills to win. At times Walcott could get careless and he could not afford to do that with Schmeling. He was also criticized for playing it too safe in the final rounds of his first fight with Louis which cost him the fight (which many thought he won anyway). He would have to be focused and determined all through the fight. I lean slightly toward Schmeling, but again, could see it going either way.
     
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