Gennady Golovkin vs Sumbu Kalambay At MW

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Gennady Golovkin vs Sumbu Kalambay At MW

  1. Golovkin By PTS

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  2. Golovkin By KO/TKO

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  3. Draw

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  4. Kalambay By PTS

    52.3%
  5. Kalambay By KO/TKO

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  1. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Very hard test for GGG. Kalambay hypnotised guys into following him. All buttery movement and crackling possibilities on offence. I think that Golovkin is a better fighter, but he might lose this one on the styles prime-for-prime.
     
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  3. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes i too see sumbu gliding smoothly for 15 and scoring crisp counters...hell this man made boxing masters like mccallum and graham chase ghosts...he had enough dig in his own shots to badly hurt the at the time durable graham,keep iran barkley respectful.

    GGG is a tremendous all round fighter i just think its a style thing
     
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  4. Tin_Ribs

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    Golovkin is too methodical and unvarying in his approach to beat Sumbu. Way too easy to hit flush. Good arsenal of punches in both hands with good technique and obviously very heavy-handed to boot. But a bit unimaginative and only possessing average timing with everything needing to spring from him landing his jab first, which Kalambay would take away from him while establishing his own superior one. Golovkin is effective at cutting off the ring it has to be said, but Kalambays footwork and punch slipping were sublime. If Alvarez and even Brook and Murray were able to frustrate Golovkin and make him miss while landing counterpunches of their own, Kalambay's upper body movement and positioning would have him hitting air and swallowing counter right uppercuts like no tomorrow.
     
  5. Tin_Ribs

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    I tend to think that Golovkin wouldn't fair all that well against most slicksters and cute types in general tbh, despite his good footwork. Toney would've really busted him up on the counter and I think I'd closely favour your Eubanks and Bentons to maybe turn the trick if they were really up for it.
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    Kalambay by decision.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Maybe Kalambay at his best would beat the current version of Golovkin. But prime for prime, numbers don't lie after a certain point. I'm not going to pick a guy whose record is speckled with loses to opponents of various quality including getting iced by Nunn over Golovkin.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Would you rank Golovkin higher or lower if he was 1-1 with Mike McCallum? On the one hand, this will be by far his best win, a huge overall boost to his resume; on the other hand, he's dropped a split in a rematch. Does that enhance his standing or hurt it?
     
  10. Ike-Man

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    The Kalambay that beat McCallum and Graham takes any version of Golovkin to school.
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    In Golovkn’s case, it wouldnt significantly help or hurt.

    In Kalambay’s case, his career hinges on it.
     
  12. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's my thoughts, I think Kalambay was good but tends to get romanticized. His career was very spotty, and really hinges on one great win in his home country against a fighter was moving up in weight and entering a more erratic stage of his career. Worse, he couldn't repeat the performance.

    He's not exactly a MW Buster Douglas but he's not that far removed either. The Nunn blow out is kind of a killer, that was his big moment to become a great... win or lose, and he lost in such a way that it really brought alot into question. I have little doubt Golovkin would walk him down. He has nothing to keep Golovkin honest.

    If we are matching him with the older Golovkin of today, he still might lose.
     
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  13. McGrain

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    I think it would significantly help. There's only limited proof that Golovkin would beat a fighter of McCallum's quality (I think he would) and it would mean a huge amount to see concrete proof that it was indelibly the case.

    But, your thinking is consistent for all that I disagree.
     
  14. NoNeck

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    McCallum at 160 isn’t the same as 154. The book isn’t written on Jacobs and Canelo yet. Jacobs is a big 160 and very good imo. He and Canelo have a lot of world level fights between them and usually win.
     
  15. McGrain

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    It's true that we don't know everything there is to know about those guys, but it doesn't mean my statement was incorrect. It means it will become incorrect if Jacobs or Canelo surprise (me, at least).