If lennox Lewis and riddick bowe fought when they were supposed to

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guys picking Lewis are offering no technical analysis supporting their position - just that Bowe must have been scared therefore would get stopped.

    BTW: Futch didn't "steer Bowe clear" of Lewis, Rock Newman did.

    Based on the fact Bowe was peaking around early '93, the fact Lewis, at that time, employed a style where he used very limited movement and exhibited a willingness to engage in exchanges, I have to consider his history of vulnerability to power punches, expecially the right hand, which was Bowe' best weapon, in making an educated guess that Bowe would stop Lewis, prbably before the late rounds.
     
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  2. ETM

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    Rock Newman was hoping someone else would beat Lewis. I don' t know about Futch. Bowe would have gotten in even better shape than he was for Holyfield. The Ruddock fight shook up a ot of people, the way in which he beat Razor.
     
  3. Saad54

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    A victory over a prime Holyfield is a better win than any win Lennox had in his entire career.
     
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  4. Flash24

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    Bowe at one point had ATG all over him. I never once thought that of Lewis, but ultimately Lewis wanted it more and became a better fighter by the end. Prime vs Prime I go with Bowe.
     
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  5. Gudetama

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    A true 50:50 in my opinion. This is the fight i most regret not occurring during my lifetime of watching the sport (I'm 36 years old, BTW)
     
  6. BCS8

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    Great post.
     
  7. BCS8

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    1) Lewis had
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    2) Yes, Bowe was scared.
    3) Bowe proved he was scared by trashing his belt rather than facing Lewis
    4) Bowe was vulnerable to power punching and Lewis trumped him in that regard

    If Holyfield nearly out brawled Bowe, what would Lewis, who convincingly beat Holy, not do to Bowe?
    If Golota beat the rat**** out of Bowe, what would Lewis, who destroyed Golota, not do to Bowe?

    Bowe fanboys out in force today ...
     
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  8. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Without the restrictions of amateur rules and Bowes infighting ability....Bowe beats him at that point

    Bowe had a roughhouse style and skills well suited for professional boxing where fighting is much rougher and infighting is allowed Lewis had that classic european style well suited for amateur where fighting is done at longer range
     
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  9. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a "Bowe Fan Boy"

    - amateur result doesn't necessarily reflect what would happen in pros

    - Greg Page beat Toney Tubbs repeadedly in the ameteurs
    - Jorge Luis Gonzalez beat Bowe in the ameteurs.

    - The determination that "Bowe was scared" is a subjective opinion

    - Lewis was more vulnerable to power punching than Bowe - espcecially Bowe's best weapon the right hand.
    Lewis was one punch ko'd only a year after the time period we are spectulating on, by the right hand of a fighter who was inferior to Bowe.

    So I can easily postulate "If Oliver McCall's right hand destroyed Lennox Lewis, imagine what Riddick Bowe's would do."

    -Golota punished Bowe over three years after the time period we are spectulating on here. The three wars with Hofyfield, especially the third fight, seemed to take something out of Bowe.

    - Lewis beat a Holyfield who far less prime than the Holyfield Bowe fought three times. In fact, one could argue the tough trilogy with Bowe diminished both Bowe and Holyfield, although it obvisously diminished Bowe moreso.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    I don't recall Bowe beating Oliver McCall
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They never fought
     
  12. BCS8

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    My point.
     
  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You didn't make a point

    Bowe never fighting McCall had nothing to do with my argument that if McCall could destroy Lewis with one right hand, Lewis would be highly susceptible to Bowe's right hand which historically was more of a weapon than that of McCall.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Here's Emanuel Steward talking Lennox Lewis -

    Emanuel Steward - Look at the generation after him and the Klitschkos, which are dominating, it’s just unfortunate they really don’t have any name fighters to fight. He was fortunate, even though he was criticized earlier for being too technical and he was complaining to me that, “I don’t have a big name to fighter to fight since Riddick Bowe” who he was really looking forward to fighting, refused to fight him—and later on,
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  15. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bowe KO1 Seldon
    McCall KO9 Seldon (losing on points)

    Bowe KO2 Ferguson
    McCall W10 Ferguson (6-4 on all cards)

    Bowe KO2 Lionel Butler
    McCall W10 Lionel Butler

    Bowe was far superior fighter than Oliver McCall in almost every possible way - bigger, better boxer, harder hitter, the only thing in which McCall was better was his legendary chin
     
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