Eubank Jr chin And fightIng heart ?

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  1. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alot of people claim his got a granite chin and his a warrior based on what ?

    The only real opponent he fought was Saunders who cant punch but completely out boxed him and then done every thing that he could to duck the rematch claiming he wouldn't vacate his wba interim title he knew Saunders wasn't going to threw away his shot at wbo duck.

    Then he could have fought Jacobs being the interim champion but instead vacates it to fight for the British if that's not a duck I don't know what Is then does nothing but talk and call golovkin out and we all know what happened there goes to super middle like a coward.

    Now his chin what top level punches has he fought to have a granite chin all the top punchers at middle he never fought Unless people are claiming spike is top level and all his fought at super middle are complete trash or a washed up Abraham and he only hasn't pulled out against groves because they think his shot
     
  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tbf its business more than a lack of fighting heart.

    The granite chin...still does need to be tested but everything we,ve seen so far points towards it being solid enough. Even guys with solid chins got tested in the early mid stages of their careers before they hit world class. Hatton was put over by guys that we,rent world class. Ward got put over. Benn was hurt plenty.

    Its pretty rare not to have a scare or two even for guys with good chins before hitting world class. Eubanks not really had a major scare...and he's took some flush shots. O Sullivan caught him with a fair bit. No one knows if its granite tbh but what we,ve seen so far tends to point towards it being solid enough.

    Even look at groves...he got put over by Anderson early in his career. Kenny could hit tbf but it wasn't exactly world class power.

    A lot of guys that made it to the top level had scares. Eubank tbf probably took an easier path that most but at least no real scares so far. Points towards chin being solid enough. Sometimes it doesn't,t translate to world level but making an educated guess...it looks like its solid enough. No ones bulletproof...but looks like it won't be the thing that let's him down so to speak.
     
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    Based on that assessment groves should win easily then?....????
     
  4. james5000

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    Moving to a higher weight to fight bigger more dangerous opponents doesn't seem very cowardly to me?

    Yildirim and Abraham were top 10 @ 168, King Arthur lost 1 fight in the last 5 years ffs, Yildirim was a monster in his absolute physical prime. Renold Quinlan destroyed GGG's most decorated win inside 2 rounds, absolutely poleaxed him?

    WBSS gives Jr the chance to truly break free from clutches of SKY/BOXNATION, if he wins the tournament he will be p4p and a superstar in the sport. Beating giants like Callum Smith would be a huge victory!!!
    What was he going to do without WBSS? beg for a pay day from Hearn???

    Entering this tournament has nothing to do with it being an easy path, that's delusional, an easy path would be trying to snake a fight with GGG, but to get that he would have to sell his soul to Hearn!!!

    Warren and Hearn would fight tooth and nail to secure his signature if he wins WBSS or he could just use his profile to continue his own path on ITV, short term it isn't the best paying financially but long term it could be a mega success if he keeps winning.

    Jr has faced some reasonable hitters and hasn't proven to have a poor chin, but Id bet he he does have a big heart and would take a lot to keep down.
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No but I have picked groves but this thread is about eubanks
     
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    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He went up to super middle because after ducking golovkin he had to where to go and geale was completely shot because the beating he got off golovkin plus cotto draining him down in weight he was finished and come on yildirim was nothing he struggled to beat periban lol some monster and Abraham lol it called smart matchmaking and he didn't have a problem fighting with hearn when he was fighting doran and that trash he fought with booth in his corner or fighting with Frank when he was fighting trash journeymen his fought one fight that wasnt hand picked and that was Saunders and Saunders beat him half trained and the biggest puncher his fought is spike and he wobbled him don't count Abraham because his not a big puncher at super middle and even blackwell wobbled him at one point in the fight
     
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    Carl Froch said he took bigger shots in sparring than what took Groves out.
     
  8. Willis Brown

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    I am assuming they wore 16/20oz gloves in sparring ? Plus Froch hates Groves and would do anything to undermine his confidence. Groves has sparred enough with Junior to know what he is about.
     
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    Jesus, u could have summarised your thoughts in one sentence!
     
  10. CutThroatFade

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    In what universe is Eubank Jr a coward?

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    How can he be a coward when he's stepped up into a weight division he has not even yet grown into in order to take on Groves and then Smith (most likely).

    He's not even a SMW and he's about to fight arguably the best SMW in the world in Groves. Yet he is a "proven coward"...

    All the Eubank haters here last year when the WBSS was announced said that Young Christopher would pull out of the tournament. We are now one month away from Groves v Eubank and he's still there preparing himself for smashing Groves down to the canvas.

    You will see that he has an iron chin on fight night when he walks through everything Groves chucks at him and absolutely flattens him in brutal fashion.
     
  11. Scyson

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    It’s not arguable about Groves. He IS the best super middleweight on the planet after that Degale loss. Will he still be number 1 after the Eubank fight? Then after a potential Callum Smith fight? I’m not so sure. But right this second nobody can argue that he’s number 1 surely.
     
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    Yeah I agree, just said arguable because inevitably people here will dispute it. Benavidez and Ramirez have both been "exposed" a little IMO.

    I'm glad that people recognise Groves as the definite number 1 because it means there can be no excuses at all when Eubank Jr lays him out (barring any controversy in the ring).
     
  13. Here's Johnny

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    Hounding Golovkin on social media for ages then swerving the fight isn't warrior like. He then moved up to fight a shot Abraham who was better at middle and other poor opponents. Fair enough he's not a proper super middle yet but when you're fighting sub standard opponents it won't matter. To put it into perspective he's 28, still only fought one person and lost. People still call him young but Groves was getting told to retire younger than that because he lost debatably to Jack and had lost twice v Froch.

    Fair enough he's came into this tournament so he's proved he's willing to step up now. This is the first time we get to see if he has the amazing chin people say. Up until now there's just no way of knowing which is what gets me.
     
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    No real reason to doubt his heart yet. Chin looks decent enough, only really wobbled by Spike but pretty untested beyond that. At the end of the day the Groves fight answers all questions about Jr. If he's legit he will win or at least make a very good fight of it. If he's a fraud at the world stage then that'll be shown too. I can't wait
     
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    Chin looks solid enough but stunned Vs Spike and Blackwell, makes me think a legit world class puncher could take him out or at least put him down.

    Hes a proper fighter though make no mistake he wants to get in people faces and have a tear up all the time. Business is the only reason he hasn't taken some bigger fights yet. I think the Groves fight is a genuine 50/50.