"Fighter A ran all night!" - 1st off, he probably didn't; 2nd, even if he did, it doesn't mean B won

Where's my cat?

 

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Compubox had it 21-11 to GGG.
I had it 19-12 to GGG.

So, not far off. On my scoresheet I didn't differentiate between power punches and jabs so I can't say how many jabs I credited Alvarez with. I'm not going to trawl through the round now.What I can say is that a lot less clean stuff lands in slomo than it does in normal speed. These guys both have excellent defence.

 

My dogs probably ate it. Only yesterday they caught another one. I love cats, but, daaammnn they are stupid.

 

I voted no but everything after the comma sounded like nonsense to me so maybe I misunderstood.


Anyway, youse guys, not this forum but the whole of combat sports fans in general, pay way too much attention to punch count. You can be in complete control of the fight and behind on punch count. The way to tell a fighter is in control while being behind on punch count is by watching posture and position. The fighter in control of the fight should be ahead on points.

That said, moving forward or running backward are not intrinsically linked to control. That's why you use posture and position. Position of the punches juxtaposed to the posture of the fighters tells the story. There are plenty of places to be to land say a right hook, but there are very few perfect. Let's say Fighter A lands two shots to Fighter B's one. With that amount of information A is winning. Now let's say A landed 2-1 on B and caused more noticeable damage. Almost impossible to make an argument for B winning isn't it? Let's say A landed 2-1 on B with visible damage but B's punches are more perfect in time, accuracy, and structure. Now who's winning?

Why we go with ideal over obviously hurt is because guys like Magomed. Some people don't show signs of damage and it's called sweet science for a reason. There is no just simply being too hard, there is techniques to absorbing energy but just receiving it is silly.

 

No, what I did was I fact checked Compubox's Round 8 jab numbers by counting Canelo's landed jabs in the round. I also specified which ones landed clean and which ones were borderline. I used a range of 7-13 jabs instead of giving a specific number of landed punches which would be debatable. I made it really easy for anyone to check my numbers themselves by giving the timestamps.

I didn't just count total punches by each fighter and gave a number. There's nothing wrong with that but we need to differentiate between jabs and power punches to test the accuracy of Compubox's numbers.

I wasn't watching it in slow-motion, I was watching it in real-time. Only pausing it to get the timestamp and rewinding sometimes to double check a punch that may be hard to see.

You had Golovkin only landing 19 punches and Canelo landing 12. Good to hear, that's 3 punches closer than Compubox had it. That's a 7 punches landed difference.

I counted at least 7 clear jabs landed by Canelo. So that's at least 6 more jabs than Compubox had and including the two jabs that landed on Golovkin's shoulders that's 8 more. Then there was the jab 4 seconds into the round that we couldn't see, may have been blocked. (I won't count that) So I'd say 9 or 10 jabs by Canelo is a pretty reasonable compromise with the borderline stuff. Lets say 9 landed jabs for Canelo. That's 8 more jabs than 1. That's 11+8 = 19 punches landed by Canelo. That's equal to your landed punches total from Golovkin in the round.

 

Every man has probably had a fantasy in which he wins a championship by knockout in a fight of the year candidate. How many imaginary championship belts have you won by low-blowing or being a master back-peddler?I think the same holds true for actual boxers. Those who are incapable of seeing their dreams manifest themselves in the most exciting way possible will simply find a different style to accomplish their goal.

 

I'm of the opinion that fighter B needs to learn to cut the ring off. I laugh when a fighter can't catch up to his opponent and gestures to him to stand and fight. NO! Learn to cut the ring off. To me that's just as foolish as a fighter telling his opponent to stop slipping his punches when he throws at his head or don't block. Silly when one actually thinks about it.

 

If I putmy fanboy goggles on I could have it 25-9 for GGG.

 

I've posted timestamps so you can confirm what I'm seeing. Why don't we go through the jabs I counted landed for Canelo in Round 8 and you check them for yourself?

 

But if nobody lands any punches or they land equal the aggressor should take the round IMO.