Is Wilder actually 2-0 against Povetkin and Ortiz?

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  1. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    We could say that Wilder already beat both Povetkin and Ortiz. Both guys took very illegal drugs, which should automaticly be Wilder TKO win.

    In this case Wilders real record is 41-0 and his resume is better than Joshuas. Wilder is also just 9 wins behind to break Rocky Marcianos record. Wilder is sure on his way to become ATG P4P #1.
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You forgot about great Andjei Wawrzhyk
     
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  3. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Marciano fought bums until his last few matches. I guess Wilder is truly on his way because his competition is better than "Mafia" Marciano.
     
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    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Many of Marciano's opponents were in the top ten heavyweights at the time.

    And they were younger than age 39 Stiverne.

    Wilder was scared of Ortiz and used the old man's high blood pressure meds as an excuse to not fight him. Povetkin's "positive" test result was so microscopic it was something he could have picked up from sharing a drinking cup at the boxing gym, but Wilder was afraid of fighting him in Russia and wanted an excuse to avoid him.

    Marciano never avoided anybody, while Wilder looks for excuses to avoid decent, prime heavyweights like Joshua and Parker, and instead fights journeymen and faded old guys.

    Wilder refused to fight Klitschko, who was still good at age 41, and instead went after old Stiverne and shot Arreola.

    Wilder really is the most protected titleholder in boxing, even more so than Stevenson.
     
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  5. Papillon

    Papillon Active Member Full Member

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    You could say that, but......you'd be completely incorrect.
     
  6. lepinthehood

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    ortiz is older than wallcott and louis combined.
     
  7. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    Calk me old fashioned but I thought you had to fight someone to be them. Daft concept I know.
     
  8. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Excuses are like buttholes, if Mayweather gets heat for salt water then Povetkin gets heat for banned substances. I don't care either way but fair is fair.
    Marciano was a mafia tool and the Italian mafia intimidated many fighters in that day all the way up until Ali. Ali had the backing of the NOI and that was the breaking point of mafia controlled boxing. Marciano was fighting everyone because he would never lose, because mob said so.
     
  9. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I emailed them asking for fights and they ducked me by never responding.

    Am I 2-0 against Ortiz and Povetkin?

    I think we can all agree that yes, yes I am.
     
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  10. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doesn't work that way. C'mon, we all saw Diggstown. No step in ring, no fight :)
     
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    KingFury64 Active Member banned Full Member

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    Yes 2 and 0, he`s managed to fight neither of them.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terrible logic from the OP. Absolutely no way a serious boxing fans comes to that junior high conclusion.
     
  13. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    And has sparring wins over both of them when they were prime.
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Wilder had of beaten Povetkin and Ortiz, how would that equate to a better win than beating Wladimir?
     
  15. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This comment alone gives you a stronger resume than Wilder's already.

    You're the true champ
     
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