Joe Frazier in place of Tua ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Jan 14, 2018.


  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Yeah, Tua had big teeth.
    No bigger than Frazier's, mind you.
     
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  2. Contro

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    And have your hands and wrists suddenly grown to sonny liston like proportions?
     
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  3. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How does this contradict anything I said?

    When I said "up to 35" I specified density. What is the issue?
     
  4. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hey, losers got to celebrate something.

    I cant type on my cellphone in the cold, im man enough to admit that. You are stil cowering behind ambiguity.
     
  5. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I heard you were on suicide watch when you got banned.

    Explains why you turned chicken.
     
  6. Contro

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    You said bones get thicker with age, they do not. Not after you stop growing. Their circumference or diameter will not significantly grow without MASSIVE growth hormone(and the side effects that come with it)
    The frame is also set. You wont get wider clavicles or longer limbs to make space for more muscle to grow than your frame can hold.
    Yeah a mpdern marciano could put on 15 or 20 pounds comfortably and be just as good at 200 or 205 but a muscular and conditioned 216-218 like tyson? No. Tyson had wider shoulders wider hips and thicker thighs. If tyson was bown the same year marciano was born and both had the same trainer and both got in great shape i think tyson would have 10-15 pounds on him. He just has a slightly wider structure imo.
     
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  7. The Kentucky Cobra

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    News to me. I never said that.

    My actual quote was:

    "bone density continues to grow into the mid 30s in healthy disease free males"

    Now this is in the same post:

    "Bones get thicker, people. It's fact." Which they do, and in this example I was talking about a 20 year old, which you actually agree with....

    The word frame is getting used loosely on here, but not once do I describe limbs growing in length or a widening of the shoulders, and I think you know that.

    Now making space for additional muscle is a completely different argument. Look at the mass body builders shorter than Maricano can carry, that really shouldn't be the basis for an argument on this matter.
     
  8. Contro

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    Alright misunderstanding
     
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  9. The Kentucky Cobra

    The Kentucky Cobra Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thank you, I appreciate you actually saying that.

    You probably just killed McVey's metaphysical boner though.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    They did get bigger as he got fatter too.
     
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  11. richdanahuff

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    This is a rough question because Tua was not as great as Frazier and Frazier is one of my all time favorites.....but......Tua was naturally stronger, hit harder and took a better punch and I think highly of Ibeabuchi's talent and power.....the 5'9" Tua was only competitive because of his attributes and in another era may have been a champion and wrecked the top ten.....but Frazier is the better fighter. According to Frazier and Durham at Frazier's peak going into the superfight he was under 200 and the used tricks to weigh heavier with weights in his pockets....this is the best Frazier and Tua at his best was roughly 220+-? Frazier was an ATG and Tua not....Frazier could beat Ali and Tua never would....similar styles different eras Frazier was better Tua was stronger...I also feel Frazier fighting today using modern strength and conditioning techniques and nutrition might have been competitive like Holyfield was...why not?
     
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  12. mcvey

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    Nope ,neither those nor my *****.:ohno
     
  13. mcvey

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    You have my reply on the Marciano thread .
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    You heard wrong Mr sewage mouth.I didnt even know I was banned for three days, I was visiting friends.They by the way are people that you have met and formed a mutual liking for,but you wouldn't know anything about that would you.lol You didn't see me trying to creep back in under a different name as you did! lol How pathetic was that?

    Kentucky /Mongoosy/ Cobra And all round arsehole!
     
  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Its the fact that , after you condescendingly asked a poster what part of your words he was unable to understand,you spelt the pivotal word WRONG!

    Do you remember when you crawled back under your new name after running away in a childish sulk after failing to get me banned , I offered to let bygones be bygones and you weren't having any of it ? Well **** that now.

    As you sow --------.