(Yaaasss!!!) Manny Pacquiao Vs. Vasyl Lomachenko In The Works...!!!

And only three years too late!

 

I did acknowledge that Manny can be classed as a small welter, but the more telling factor IMO is what the body has been acclimated to and for how long. His 40 year old body hasn't been lower than 143 in a long time.

Men who lose more weight than is healthy for them not only become weaker, but more fragile. This is exacerbated with age.

And I do believe that Manny walks around between 150-155, contrary to the myths about him walking around at 138 and having to gorge himself to get to the mid-140's for a fight. Pinoy news reported as much almost ten years ago.

 

That said, I'm not opposed to the idea of Manny doing 140-135, because beating Pacquiao would be a good way for Loma to announce himself in that weight region and set up more interesting fights. If Manny were to pull out a win, on the other hand, that's a nice feather in his cap before he sails off into the sunset (which he surely must do soon).

I suppose I am opposed to it if I consider it in terms of Manny's health, especially the nearer it gets to the LW limit.

 

I'd agree with him that 150 is too big, in as much as it would be asking too much of him to regularly compete against men who weigh in at 154 and tend to walk around in the 170's.

You and I know that what a man thinks he can safely do isn't always the truth of the matter, even among pro boxers who take risks with their bodies for a living. But I certainly admire Pacquiao's belief in himself and his willingness to submit his body to those conditions. If he's happy to try it out, I'm not going to say he shouldn't. I'm just going to adjust my expectations, and the measures of credit I dole out, accordingly.

 

Maybe, Erik Morales can come out of retirement for Lomachenko's next fight?

 

After that, he could fight Whitaker.

 

He was achingly close to getting the moral victory over Garcia in their first bout, although they were going to screw him on the scorecards. Actually, the open scoring is the reason he got dropped down the stretch and fell apart - his old man heard the scores and told him he had to go for it, which resulted in him walking right into a Garcia counter.

Yet and still, there were rounds in that fight that were like teacher vs. student. That Morales right hand feint to the body was still as trusty as ever.

That 2011-2012 run of Morales' was quite amazing, considering how far past his best he was. Heart and ingrained craft defying his decline.

 

PAC is actually doing really well financially. He’s still sitting in over $200M, Net. Manny has a lot of businesses that sustain his lifestyle but he definitely was chasing Conor which was high reward/low risk. Loma is a tall order as well at this stage of his career but it’s a much safer fight than Crawford. I think the PPV with Loma will sell better as well.

 

Manny usually walks around at 145-150 lbs in between fights. He doesn’t balloon up when he’s not in camp. When Manny was doing movies he was eating 8k to 10k calories a day just to keep his weight up. He’s a small man.....he just has added a lot muscle mass that is a bit more than his frame should carry....he isn’t a real welterweight, never was.

 

I don't believe that he walks around under 150, nor should he need to balloon to walk around between 150-155 - that's a typical weight for a fit, healthy man of his height and density. He looked just as he does now when he was filming Wapakman -- not overfed, just relatively soft and out of fighting shape, but svelte -- and his weight was reported to be 153 back then.

Whether one thinks he's a true welter or not, the most important factor should be what his body has been acclimated to and for how long. At almost age 40, dropping below what his body is so used to fighting at will degrade his performance, moreso with each pound closer he gets to 135.

Old fighters who've been hitting the scale at a certain weight for around a decade don't experience success when dropping significantly beneath that weight and boxing at world class. One historical precedent to the contrary is all I need to reconsider my position.

 

Pac will be fine.. I hope it happens! Win or lose

 

I don’t believe he walks around above 150 at all. Manny since 2011 has said he’s not a natural welterweight and at that point was a natural jr Welterweight who could still operate at 135. He’s been on record saying that as late as 2015.

Manny’s frame is deceptive. Since he’s been fighting one or two weight classes over his natural weight, he’s had to pack on muscle mass that makes his build look bigger than it is only 5’5...he’s a very small man. He probably walks around at 145-148 lbs...150 is pushing it.

His body has definitely acclimated to the added muscle mass and weight. He’s been forcing himself while in camp to find the balance of calorie intake and maintaining his exercises in camp so he doesn’t burn everything off. That’s why his calorie intake is insane for a many who is only 5’5 and under a buck fifty.

Dropping down to 135 is insane....140 is questionable because losing muscle mass in a healthy way is a lot harder than packing on muscle mass...especially when you consider Manny is almost 40 years old. To drop the 5 to 10 pounds of muscle and not be completely drained he will need to change up his diet and training regiment gradually. That could be a 6 to 12 month process but most likely Manny will just do what Roy Jones did and just drop muscle mass expeditiously.