Holy field that had just smashed Dwight Muhammad in the rematch .Against Marciano of the Charles fights ? Is Holy Field capable at 195 to mix it with the Rock ?
Marciano wins it.. If bert cooper did hurt evander badly (evander was 210)marciano breaks his bones at 195. Evander was too fragile like spaguetti under 200 pounds for the robust,durable rocky.evander did not have experience enough neither
Not durable? Have you watched Holyfield-Qawi I? Rocky's workrate would be his demise as Holyfield counters and sets up his devastating combos. Referee stops the fight in round 10 after Holyfield unloads a 15+ punch combo on a defenseless Marciano
Comparing qawi with marciano is like Comparing dog **** with gold.kid you have no clue what you are talking about
No one is comparing anybody, you said he wasn't durable, I gave you an example of a tough grueling bout where he was more than a bit durable. And after the second Qawi fight he was 4 months from being recognized as the undisputed Cruiserweight champion, so your whole thought on him not having any experience is nonsense. If you could give any examples as to why you think Marciano would win, besides he's fragile (which anyone who's ever watched boxing knows he is not) and lacking "experience" at this point in his career. I'm also here to discuss and learn. I have never said I am the most knowledgeable person on boxing, these are my views, and they can be changed with a good enough factual response. But insulting someone because of their opinion is not the way to go about it.
Tell me where did i say that holyfield was not durable and tell me where is the insult? Stop inventing fantasies. And you are saying that the fact evander had no experience enough at cruiser to beat an all time great hw like marciano is not a relevant argument.it shows your lack of knowledge.
You said he was fragile; fragile is the opposite of durable. Assuming I'm comparing Marciano to Qawi, then relegating to the oft quoted you don't know what you are talking about. That is insulting. Yes, in his era Marciano was a heavyweight, but in this hypothetical matchup, he's fighting at Cruiserweight. So up to this point in his career Holyfield was a defending champion at Cruiserweight, so he had more than a little experience to fight Marciano. And isn't Holyfield an ATG as well?
Holyfield by UD. At that weight and in that time Holyfield was strong, in great (natural) shape, took unbelievable punishment from the rock hard Qawi without getting KTFO. I believe this would be a FOTY, rock em sock type battle but Holyfields workrate wins out over Rocky's pressure. The Suzy Q that ko'd Walcott would bounce off Holy's chin without a KO.
I'm going for holy field here .Whilst Dwight was certainly not Marciano ,I think the first fight proved with out a doubt that holy was a true warrior who could dig deep and take it .He would have youth on his side plus a great Chin. He'd give and take against rock and be hit like never before ,but he'd be there at the end of 15 round s . Against Holy ,Marciano would be facing someone with just as much heart as himself .
i said that he would be fragile at 190 pounds against a monster like marciano ,evander was 6"2 1/2 and 190 pounds is a very low weight for a guy that tall ,so yes,he would be more fragile against a strong guy and hard puncher like rocky No,it is no an insult at all, a different thing is that you did not like that i told you that you had no clue,but it is not an insult. Marciano fought at 190 but at 190 he fought guys over 200 pounds too.when evander moved up from lhw to cruiser he said that he felt himself fragile and small next to his rivals and he was insecure. Evander at 190 fought only 185-190 pounders. Evander was an all time Great overall with his hw career,his resume at cruiser was very poor to rate him that high against all time great hws.you are making a mix betweenn cruiser and hw evander to make points in his advantage. Al 190 evander was too green for marciano even at hw i am not sure that evander beats rocky,rocky had stylistical advantage the same with joe frazier
Low weight? Fragile? Holyfield was always in top shape. Have you even seen his Cruiserweight career? When you're assuming things to discredit my opinion then saying I don't know anything, you are being disrespectful, and that's insulting. Marciano always came in under 190 pounds and I don't think much of his top competition even went above, that let alone 200. Holyfield is often credited as being the greatest Cruiserweight in it's history, making the assumption that his CW resume is poor shows a bit of a bias. I have never heard of Holyfield making this claim, if you would give me the source, I am always interested in these tidbits of information from fighters. And I am not mixing his CW and HW career to make my point. If Holyfield fought in Marciano's era he would have been a HW. If the OP would of said after the first Qawi fight then maybe you'd be right, but this hypothetical is after the second Qawi fight where Holyfield definitely wasn't green. Would it be a tough fight for him? Of course, no one said it would be an easy out. But I believe Holyfield's heart and determination would see him to victory. He was the underdog for most of his highest profile fights and almost always came out on top. At HW I believe he's beat Rocky in a more dominant fashion than at CW. You have yet to tell is how this fight would play out. I already stated I believe Rocky's workrate would be his undoing against Holyfield, as Holyfield could set up good traps and counters and explode with his hard fast combos. What stylistic advantages do you believe Rocky's has?
Por que no puedes, crees que nomas diciendo que Holyfield no tiene la experiencia y que es fragil, y que Marciano es un monstro quebra huesos va a cambiar mi opinion estas bien equivocado. Si nomas vas a repetirte eso, estoy de acuerdo deja de contestame. Y trabajo sobre la noche. Translation: Because you can't. If you believe repeating that Holyfield was fragile and green, and Marciano was a monstrous bone breaking puncher, you're going to change my opinion then you're wrong. If you're going to keep repeating that then I agree you shouldn't reply to me. I work overnight. My days are always great and fantastic.
Ponte a ver a chavez ,marquez y a canelo porque es una perdida de tiempo hablar de algo que no sabes,además de ser alguien tozudo con mente cerrada que no ve más allá de su propia nariz,eso es porque me aburre responder a alguien que no importa cuantos motivos le des,siempre buscará un pero y una excusa. Bienvenido a mi lista de bloqueo .chao