Rocky Marciano unbeatable?

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  1. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    I don' know about that now, I could see dempsey, prime louis or james toney beating rocky.
     
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    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a strange and beautiful unit of measurement.
     
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    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another Marciano thread, I don't know about unbeatable, except in popularity.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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  5. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only fighter who pulls that trick out of his hat is Holyfield at cruiser weight. Holyfield had the skill level AND the toughness. I believe Holyfield if he fights a discipline fight takes Marciano apart.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Perhaps in exiting both extremes of the popularity spectrum!
     
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  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Beterbiev by KO
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Who is Beterbiev?
     
  9. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    No one's emptying Rocky's tank
     
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    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Toney would have to be on his game though.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Marciano didn't have the accuracy to match his power. It's not that he couldn't have KO'd Walcott in 1 round or I should say, it's not that he didn't have the power to do it in round 1, but he couldn't land that flush shot that he did in round 13.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Was Jack Johnson under 200, I thought he was over 200? Dempsey and Marciano is tough to call. Marciano beat the better fighters while Dempsey struggled with lesser fighters. That's why I think Marciano would be more formidable H2H (MOST TIMES). For example, I'd pick Marciano to beat Floyd Paterson before I'd pick Dempsey to do it. Dempsey/Marciano would be 2nd only to Frazier/Marciano in terms of edge of your seat fighting thrills.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I put Louis with the 200+ pound crew instead of the under 200 crew, for the purposes of this discussion. Dempsey has a reasonable shot. Toney, maybe he could, but I'd favor Rocky.
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He catches Joe flush more than a few times with big right hands and Joe doesn't budge. It's when Joe's legs go south that he gets him coming off the ropes and things come to a conclusion. I don't see it as the stroke of lightning that many prefer to see it as. Joe gets tired and slows down. He was old as dirt. That happens.