If Frazier and Marciano switched eras...

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  1. BulletPunch

    BulletPunch New Member Full Member

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    Had the two fought in each others respective time periods, how do you think they'd do.
    Could Frazier go 49-0?
    How would Marciano fare in an era with guys like Ali and Foreman?
     
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  2. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Frazier goes 49-0 against Marciano's opponents as rare as undefeated is I think Frazier does his 4 losses were to Foremen and Ali the Louis that Rocky fought gets the same beating from Frazier.....a hard hitting swarmer is a hard hitting swarmer
     
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  3. McGrain

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    Marciano would get as far as Ali I; I'd pick Ali to beat him i'm afraid.

    Frazier, not sure you know. We know he didn't have more than one very very serious fight in him before starting to slide, and there were some good guys in Marciano's title run. On balance he might get it done, on the other hand he might start to slip and lose to Charles. Gun to my head....I think he could get through those title defences, but no money down.
     
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  4. Grapefruit

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    Frazier would have been the undefeated champion for sure, probably more knockuts too
     
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  5. Seamus

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    Marciano loses to Liston. Twice.
     
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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wrong thread ?

    If Frazier and Marciano switched eras...

    Or did Frazier fight Liston ?
     
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  7. Seamus

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    I am on the astral plane.
     
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  8. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    But Frazier never fought liston
     
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  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Marciano would Lose several times.bonavena and quarry would be wars for him.foreman would kill him like a fly
     
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  10. mcvey

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    Charles and Walcott would give Frazier great fights as they did Rocky,but he would probably prevail,and ,because of his more urgent attack maybe sooner.I don't think Moore would drop Joe he took Foster's power and I think Belting Bob hit harder than Archie.Frazier would have stopped the Louis that Marciano did.

    Quarry and Rocky would have ended about the same,imo.
    Rocky loses to Ali in all 3 fights,he was slower and more measured than Joe and Ali would have more time to regroup.I would expect Ali to stop him by tko in at least one of the trilogy.
    Foreman stops Rocky early, just too big.
    Ellis was capable of dropping Rocky early but then gradually gets broken down to a walk, late stoppage or clear dec for Rock.
    Rocky beats Oscar in a brawl. Rocky nails Bob Foster in about 6 rds. I don't think any of Joe's other opponents have a chance, they weren't anything to shout about.
     
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  11. janitor

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    I could see their results being strikingly similar to be honest.
     
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  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Frazier would much better than rocky did against Charles and walcott. Frazier was 20-25 pounds bigger than rocky, he was probably stronger,faster and much harder to outbox. Frazier vs charles is a missmatch.a complete beating ,bob foster had much more power than Charles and frazier did not respect his power,70 71frazier destroys Charles it is not competetive at all .
     
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  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You can't do much better than four wins in four fights.

    The only direction that Frazier can take the resume, is down.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    What if he knocked them out sooner rather than later in all 4 fights? There's no down in that.
     
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  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Yes you can. Ending the fights much faster. Charles is not going to the distance with frazier even in dreams
     
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