Utter ruination of young prodigies

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Chapo was dangerous until the last drop, wasn't he? Even in his self-contained 1997 comeback, he went 5-0 (4) on the year - and who knows how much further he could've extended that but for his strange untimely death (provided he kept a reasonable cap on the level at which he fought)
     
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    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Van horn against Barkley!.who's idea was that? Really bad decision Horn got creamed.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Speaking of Horn...the Hornet, perhaps soon, at the hands of Bud?

    Now, even at this late stage Pacquiao is no slouch. That's a fine, overachiever win for Jeff...but one could argue that stylistically it did precisely zilch to prepare him for a Crawford (and Corcoran did even less)...
     
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    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mickey Ward ruined Alfonso Sanchez who was schooling him at the time of the stoppage. Wicked body shot,Sanchez was never the same.
     
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    Did anyone mention David Reid? That is a prime example if any.
     
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    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Mark Breland was never the same after that first fight with Marlon Starling.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    ...and we can add Tommy Ayers onto his list of victims. Before they met Ayers was 21-0 (18), coming in with confidence & momentum. He put up a spirited effort but Starling wrought a slow jam symphony of destruction to body & head, after which Ayers would spend the rest of the decade struggling with a 17-3 mark (stopped twice) post-Starling.

    Donald Curry might well have been another, were he not just a bit too great. 14-0 going up against 25-0 Starling with no real "bridge" in between debutante fodder and him (save the likes of Bruce Finch) is a daunting task for anybody, even a blue-chip amateur with a 400-4 record.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Also want to give an honorary mention for the Avoidance of this fate (no small feat), along with Curry, to Danny Jacobs. Many guys have followed his initial career arc, only when they get KTFO by their equivalent of Pirog they're never again heard from...and that's without subsequently battling & surviving cancer. The fact that he not only made his way into contention again, but arguably (in some people's eyes) deserved the nod over the generation's #1 middleweight is pretty damn "Miraculous". :clap:
     
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    Joe Mesi was ruined by Jirov.
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Actually that's an interesting take. He fought on another 3½ years (although most commissions wouldn't touch him with a thirty foot pole after the brain clot) and remains undefeated - but never really mounted the big rally of momentum he was hoping for to land a title shot or payday.
     
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    Vargas had very good technical skills, WTF are you talking about? Being able to slip punches naturally after having been down twice in the very first rounds shows just how much skills were in his repertoire.. Had Tito not resorted to intentional low blows there's no telling what would have happened at the end.
     
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    Did you know Don's other brother Graylin Curry was unbeaten as an amateur
    Never materialized as a pro
     
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    He wasn't the same after that fight with Jirov. Good thing he got out when he did because he would have gotten seriously hurt.
     
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    I think it's hilarious how people think Vargas was some kind of chin first slugger. Vargas as you said was an exceptional fighter who was skilled enough to box with and beat Ike Quartey more convincingly than anyone else, and who also squeaked out a close but clear decision against Winky Wright.

    Even after he was KD against DLH, and got up but was out on his feet right before getting KO, Vargas displayed amazing head and waist movement dodging every punch Oscar threw before getting put in the opposite corner and eventually stopped.
     
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