[RING 1986 ] Shuler claims that Briscoe hit him a lot harder than Hearns

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  1. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    This is an excerpt from an article "Night of Knockouts," by Jack Welsh, on pp. 9-10 in the May 1988 Ring, where Hearns and Shuler talk about their fight. I found the overall discussion interesting but only mentioned the "hit harder" part in the title because that's what people seem to like arguing about around here.


    "I used a couple of lefts to the body to make Shuler bring his hands down. Shuler came out shooting jabs, and he connected with a couple. In the last two punches, I threw a short right, then I had to do a skip to get the long right hand which finished Shuler off. No I didn't think he was going to get up.
    "My legs were much stronger for this fight because I cut down on my road work and went back to work on the heavy bag. If there's a delay with Hagler, I'll defend my WBC title because it sure didn't come easy."
    Shuler, wearing a black and white jump suit, came to the dais before Hearns departed. He embraced his conqueror and then reflected on the abbreviated ending.
    "I was trying to push away from his left hook, and I just got caught with his right hand," James said. "I'll learn from this one. The weather wasn't any excuse. I just got caught. When he hit me with the first right hand, it didn't sting me, so I thought, 'Shucks, I'll take it to him.' The body punches didn't hurt me at all, and that's another reason why I decided to take it to Hearns.
    "Bennie Briscoe hit me a lot harder when I used to spar with him in Philly, but Hearns is a great fighter, and a puncher as you can see. Another mistake I made was I had my hands low when I went at him. He was as fast as I thought he'd be so I expected it."
    Futch agreed with Shuler on that aspect. "We thought Hearns would come out fast, so I warned Shuler before we left the dressing room, and again just before the first bell. But Hearns kept throwing those rights and one got through."
     
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  2. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Was that after he woke up ?
     
  3. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Yes.
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Well he was best placed to know!
     
  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was James carried unconscious from the gym ring after those sparring sessions with Briscoe?
     
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  6. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even if he did hit a little harder than Hearn's, so what? He didn't have the blistering hand speed and combinations to land his brand of power and was actually a completely different kind of fighter from Hearns all together...

    Not to mention Hearns is certainly not optimal fighting wise at middleweight, obviously.
     
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  7. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Poor Shuler died less than a month later.
     
  8. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    these boxers never want to say the guy who kod them hit the hardest. It must be a pride thing but it makes them look dumb.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    TBH i don't think James quite knew what hit him.
     
  10. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    So tragic. The guy was an unbeaten prospect with the world at his feet and in the space of one week he was knocked out after barely a minute against Hearns and then died in a motorcycle accident.
     
  11. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I see this a lot where a fighter claims the guy who KOd him wasnt the hardest punch he ever faced. It sounds crazy at first but the fact is if you get good and knocked out you dont feel or remember it. If you can remember the punch that knocked you out you didnt get knocked out.
     
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