Let's fast forward five years, and unpack the drama that is to be the 2023 IBHOF ballot...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by IntentionalButt, Jan 23, 2018.


There can be only three.

Poll closed Dec 28, 2022.

  1. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Wladimir Klitschko in, Andre Ward in. (Cotto & Ioka out)

    44 vote(s)
    62.0%

  2. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Miguel Cotto in, Andre Ward in. (Klitschko & Ioka out)

    2 vote(s)
    2.8%

  3. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Wladimir Klitschko in, Miguel Cotto in. (Ward & Ioka out)

    22 vote(s)
    31.0%

  4. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Wladimir Klitschko in, Kazuto Ioka in. (Cotto & Ward out)

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%

  5. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Kazuto Ioka in, Andre Ward in. (Klitschko & Cotto out)

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%

  6. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. in, Miguel Cotto in, Kazuto Ioka in. (Klitschko & Ward out)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. Wladimir Klitschko in, Andre Ward in, Miguel Cotto in. (Mayweather & Ioka out)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  8. Wladimir Klitschko in, Andre Ward in, Kazuto Ioka in. (Mayweather & Cotto out)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. Andre Ward in, Miguel Cotto in, Kazuto Ioka in. (Klitschko & Mayweather out)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. Miguel Cotto in, Wladimir Klitschko in, Kazuto Ioka in (Mayweather & Ward out)

    1 vote(s)
    1.4%
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  1. Mynydd

    Mynydd Member Full Member

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    That's an amazing quandary isn't it? No matter who you put first, you feel like you're committing sacrilege. No matter who you put third, you feel like you're committing sacrilege. I'm not even gonna touch it.
     
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  2. Mynydd

    Mynydd Member Full Member

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    Ah **** it. Floyd, Manny, Roy.
     
    Mynydd, Jan 23, 2018
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  3. Mynydd

    Mynydd Member Full Member

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    And now I look at it, I feel it should be Roy, Floyd, Manny. But eight years ago I thought Manny was the best boxer since Duran, so did he just fight too long? In which case, do I put him ahead of the other two? Like you said. Daaaaaaaaamn.
     
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  4. Mynydd

    Mynydd Member Full Member

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    Incidentally, this is the kind of thread that I come to this forum for. Good job.
     
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  5. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Pedro Diaz had coached Cotto all wrong. Roach just brought back the body kill and the conditioning. Plus Cotto is a converted southpaw, hence the power. And Delvin was handpicked for that fight. Older Cotto didn’t knock down anyone that hadn’t been knocked down before.

    Cotto is cien por ciento boriqua and cien por ciento clean!
     
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  6. kirk

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    May
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    Ward
     
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  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Floyd and Wlad are locks. I think Cotto edges Ward in the balance between fame and accomplishment even though Ward will be remembered as better & greater. He also rose to fame a few years earlier than Ward did. Ioka is too comparatively uncelebrated.
     
    Bogotazo, Jan 23, 2018
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  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Ward will return and fight again, book it.

    INSANE class.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pac yeah Floyd ?? too many dark clouds of suspicion for me
     
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  11. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Nope.
    It should be Manny Roy Floyd lol.
    Manny arguably achieved more and more popular world wide.
    Rag to riches, lack of literacy to a seat in the senate, 8 division champ, fighter of the decade, making album and movies ha3x.
    It's the hall of fame remember, not hall of skill:)
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Fascinating.

    Ward returns at CW, delaying his own induction eligibility...leaving us with a class of Mayweather/Toney/Klitschko? (Cotto frozen out, since the only way he was getting off the bubble was by elbowing past Ward?)
     
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  13. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Ward relies a lot on technical ability as well as physicality.
    He is not fast, athletic or slick in the traditional sense.
    I don't see him being that successful above light heavy.
     
    pincai, Jan 23, 2018
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well regardless of whether he succeeds at CW or flops onto his face and lets his zero (and however much that factors into his legacy) slip from his grasp, what he accomplishes with a return is kicking his can down the road a ways and extricating himself from the mess in 2023 (perhaps avoiding the dreaded bubble, should Toney indeed not lace up officially again - since one has to presume Toney would take precedence over both Ward & Cotto)...but possibly lining himself up with some further conflicts down the road if his first eligibility year happens to line up with Pacquiao and two or more near-equals in greatness..
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 23, 2018
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  15. lufcrazy

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    Floyd, Ward and Klitschko
     
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