Hot take: Erislandy Lara vs. Jarrett Hurd will resemble Yves Ulysse Jr. vs. Cletus Seldin writ large

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Who is going to wake up the unified 154lb champ the morning of April 8th?

Poll closed Apr 7, 2018.
  1. Lara on points

    56.6%
  2. Lara by stoppage

    5.7%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Hurd on points

    17.0%
  5. Hurd by stoppage

    20.8%
  1. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Is Lara going to have to put more on his punches to stop Hurd coming forward or will he simply just run faster?

    Either way Lara will be working much harder than he has ever had to do in his career and definitely in recent years.

    Jarrett brings big man pressure, big man power and a tremendous work rate. His work rate climbs as the rounds get deeper too. I believe he has a tremendous chin, and belief that he will walk through walls to get to Lara. I don't think Lara is used to throwing power, and he ain't used to doing it for 12 rounds.

    Experience is handy but it isn't going to stop you getting punched in the face. Those amateur records mean practically nothing. If it were an amateur fight Hurd might have lost a few as a pro.

    However it's tough going 12 rounds with Jarrett Hurd!!!!
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Big man power!:sisigay::qmeparto:
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  3. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post IB. Lara has outboxed every strong attacker he's faced before, guys who as you say either had a more refined setup and attack or who were harder one-punch punchers than Hurd. The gulf in ring IQ is massive here. But but but Hurd's so big is the only case those backing him make, and that with little more as an asset simply almost never beats elite, skilled boxers.

    I can't decide if Lara outpoints him or lands so easily that he gets the stoppage. I flipped a coin for the poll, points it is.
     
  4. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lara knows what to expect. and he has the tools. main thing to consider is age . lara should of learned alot from his paul williams fight and his angulo fight. so i hope he grew and gotten better from those experiences.

    also lara better of learned from watching hurds last few fights. no secret on wat hurd is trying to do. hes trying to will his way to victory with constant pressure from a big ole body keep on comin at you.

    very close fight. it can go either way . also judges dont like lara. idk who to pick atm.
     
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  5. cippi

    cippi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    laras lack of competition something to keep in mind. hes not fighting the best i kno his sparring partners are legit but sparring is sparring. so how sharp can he be?
     
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  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I could just as easily see a Lee-Chavez , Lebedev-Jones, or Cotto-Margo I scenario.

    Lara's way more skilled, but if he loses, it won't be because of lack of skill. Dude is getting older and his matchmaking has been stale the last few years, and he's going against a big, young, heavy handed Frankenstein type who is also way more active than him.

    Hurd will probably look like an amateur, and not a particularly great one, for the first half of the fight. But he plays the long game. I think he grinds him down and stops Lara late.

    Just like against Harrison and Trout, people don't appreciate how tough actually beating Hurd is at 154....even if you outbox him. He'll have a short prime and will lose effectiveness once his body won't let him drain to 154, but until then, he's a problem. Even if he loses, nobody's going to be happy about going 12 rounds with Hurd.
     
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  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Lara looked like a techinical beast vs Gausha. Definitely not the same fighter who faced Angulo.
    But i am still hoping that Hurd gets to him.

    Brutal KO either way will be fine with me tbh :boxing1
     
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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I can agree with this thread but if Lara has slipped he will get broken down late and possibly stopped by Hurd who just keeps coming for a full 12 rounds. He's not the kind of guy you can sleep on, he's limited crude and can be outboxed but he makes up for it by putting on pressure and walking through fire to wear guys down.
     
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  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Williams was a big mofo, but that fight was also damn near 7 years ago. Angulo win will have been nearly 5 years old by the time the fight goes down.

    It's all a matter of what Lara's gas tank and wheels are like now. We'll find out if taking it easy and cashing in the last few years was a blessing or a curse for him, and how much of that hungry Lara is still left.
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    118-110 Lara
     
  11. Boxingfan200

    Boxingfan200 USYK #1 P4P banned Full Member

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    lol damn no way hurd should be fighting at 154.. hes fricking huge . smh another weight bully.
     
  12. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It may resemble Ulysee Hr-Seldin for the first few rounds...Though I think Hurd's ability to find the body and make contact is being sold short.

    But, after a while, I think this starts resembling Monzon-Griffith-and when Hurd really gets rolling it may well resemble Monzon-Napoles.

    I've got Hurd winning. Pretty damned certain of it, actually.

    And I'll call out my fellow old-school ESB'er for an avatar bet on the outcome.
     
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  13. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Very long read but almost literally word for word what I'd state and actually have stated in
    shorter versions on previous threads. Hurd is going up against someone who will outbox him
    and will not leave the openings or tire in the ring to give him the opportunity to mount a comeback.
     
  14. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Due to Lara’s age and Hurd’s size and youth advantages I think this is a competitive fight.

    Lara has success early and Hurd closes the gap some in the later rounds. I’d pick Lara by decision.

    I would have preferred Hurd-Charlo but this is a good fight as well.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Why are you so hung up on the cosmetic stuff, anyway? You do realize in my titular assertion that one fight will resemble another it has more to do with the styles/dispositions/skill-gap betwixt the principals and not their actual superficial appearance or morphological dimensions, right? Thank you, though, for pointing out that Hurd and Seldin aren't lookalikes or shaped the same way. (though you could've been a little more helpful tbh, if you pointed out to everyone that Seldin isn't black, just in case anybody needed clarification on that)

    This is a nuanced, adult conversation. The kiddies table is yadda-way, go find yourself a nice MVC! thread or similarly easygoing sandbox to play in. :eaea:
     
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