Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Orlando Salido RBR ~ Did Lomachenko Actually Lose Or Was He Robbed?

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Lomachenko vs. Salido - What's Your Score?

Poll closed Jul 25, 2018.
  1. 116-112 Salido

    11.0%
  2. 115-113 Salido

    37.0%
  3. 114-114 Draw

    12.3%
  4. 115-113 Lomachenko

    37.0%
  5. 116-112 Lomachenko

    15.1%
  6. Other

    1.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    lol my cat is so good-natured - he's never scratched me nor anyone else. However, he's a terror when it comes to other cats. Oddly enough he's absolutely fine with dogs.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: the female might be a radical feminist
     
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  3. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You had Loma winning rounds 1 and 4 and those were clear Salido rounds.
     
  4. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Salido won by a couple rounds. Loma took too long figuring him out. If it had gone 15 Loma would have won.
     
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  5. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He doesn’t know how to score fights at all.
     
  6. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    The most glaring flaw Loma showed in that fight was poor pacing strategy. Having never gone 12 before, he was too conservative managing his energy before he realized hed be fine and opened up.

    He had a ton of success late, but just ran out of rounds. Look at how much energy he finished with compared to how slow he started- it was that miscalculation that cost him. He turned it on a round or two too late.

    The thing about Loma is, he learns astonishingly quick & fixes the glitches. Future fighters can't bank on the same thing working twice on him, or him making the same error repeatedly. Straight off that miscalculation vs Siri, he took on Russell at a blistering 12 round pace.
     
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  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. S
    2. S
    3. L
    4. Salido
    5.L
    6. Salido
    7.L
    8. S
    9. S
    10. S
    11. L
    12. L
     
  8. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I thought it was more about solving Salido’s style than starting at too slow a pace. You’re saying Loma started slow because he was worried about going 12 rounds?
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I watched the fight live. I had it 7-5 at the time but I'm no longer in the business of defending scorecards.I focus more on the fight, I wish scoring was like how it used to be in Pride tbh.

    Loma showed a great fight iq that night and an even better gas tank. He was able to adjust in the latter rounds and get his shots off quick and often to the point of staggering him a few times in the last round.

    Thay being said, Salido showed an even greater ring IQ. He didn't try boxing with Loma he tried taking him out of his comfort zone and for the first 9 rounds the fight was going the way Salido wanted it to. He fought hard and he fought dirty and he made Loma look amateur.

    I'm not talking about who landed the cleaner shots, I'm not talking about who had the better defence or the most effective aggression. But Salido was the Rung general and holistically speaking he had his way with Loma.

    But then Loma finally figured him out and bossed him down the stretch.

    I remember thinking it was proper close at the announcement and that I expected Salido to get his hand raised.

    I'd fully expect Loma to knock Salido out in the rematch but Salido for me deserves credit for his career best performance.

    He came in overweight and he landed a lot of low blows but come in, this isn't tiddlywinks. The balance of the fight was in Salidos favour for me and whilst I'm under no illusion that many rounds could be scored to Loma, I didn't feel shocked at the decision and I still today don't think it was a bad decision.
     
  10. Rock0052

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    It's a mix of the two. I definitely think his pace management played a critical part & improved as a result of this fight (as did his ability to handle pro-style "wily" tricks of the trade).
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    For all of you Compubox fanboys, these numbers back my score up for the most part.


    Sharpen your eyes a little, look at those lopsided accuracy percentages. 44% to 25%. Damn!

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    I gave Loma 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 10, 11, 12



     
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  12. CST80

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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Egad!!!:yikes: Thanks for rewatching and rescoring it Pinoy, but I couldn't disagree more. Go back and watch the 4th and 7th, a little closer.:lol:
     
  14. Braindamage

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    Loma is a special fighter! Everyone knows this and you can bet his camp knew it. Why on earth would you put this young talent in there with Salido in only his second pro fight? To get a belt and make history? Stupid! That plan totally backfired on them. Not only did they not get the belt and make history, but Loma's record got tarnished from the start. If Loma had never fought Salido, nobody would have cared and his profile would be impecible! People tend to forget, a main key to boxing immortality is management. At the end of the day, this loss will mean nothing, just like BHops first loss. Loma will continue to do impressive things in the ring for many years. Forget about Salido!
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Thanks for watching again, but there was nothing clear about most of the rounds. I tend to be a stickler for accuracy, and IMO Loma nullified much of Salido's offense, and when you throw out shots to the back, hips, arms and below the belt, then you can't count the majority of Siri's shots. Because those shots don't count.
     
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