Alexander Povetkin vs Anthony Joshua - Who wins?

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Alexander Povetkin vs Anthony Joshua - Who wins?

  1. Alexander Povetkin

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  2. Anthony Joshua

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  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Povetkin's scared of champions. He ducks, delays, and avoids until he's no other option but to fight then he fights to survive not win. Pov needed a decade to grow the balls to fight Wlad and then what did he do? Slow danced with champion? Put his face on Wlad's chest and give him a nice hug?

    Dude can't fight for **** all and he knows it. Scared of anyone who hasn't been exposed and terrified of champions. If Pov gets into position and actually fights AJ the first time he's in position to fight the champion It'd be the first time in his career. If he takes AJ's 0 it'd be his 3rd in his whole career.

    How many fighters became top tens after Pov and fought for the title without ever having to see Pov? How many of them fought Pov only after being exposed? Povetkin's a ***** and AJ will take advantage of that pussitude.

    Joshua has the chin to whether Pov, he's the power to stop Pov, and he's got the willingness to put it together. Povetkin is nothing but a guy who keeps himself relevant on leftovers and has to take PEDs just to maintain that.

    Two different substances and two different tests, ducks his first 1 contender slot every time he's given it, avoids unbeaten fighters, and has stopped no one from getting a title fight, but none of that Tinkerbell's fault is it.


    He'll look like what he is; a twat, a twink, a whoopsie, a dandy, and a puff. Just like he did against Wladster except AJ's not going to be as kind hearted and good natured as to hug it out with him.
     
  2. HerolGee

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  3. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the 21st century planet Earth which is mainly artificial, unclean and unnatural. There exists no such thing as a 100% clean athlete or a 100% natural athlete, never mind just a 100% clean and natural boxer. Simply because everything in this world today for the most part is artificial and unnatural. Including food average day to day human beings consume in 1st and 2nd world countries. Artificial chemicals are the norm in the 21st century and are consumed by average human beings which can pass as 'PED' or 'drugs' and those some individuals can fail a drug test based on consuming those normal artificial chemicals found in day to day food such as beefs that are on steroids.

    Wilder is on drugs, just as much if not more than Povetkin. Drug testing doesn't accurately prove anything.
     
  4. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So where was it that I wrote the exact word 'dumb' in reference to others or you going to duck another question and expose yourself in public as the true 'dumb ass' with low IQ, intelligence and logical thinking capacity and someone that is in need of logic courses?
     
  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee VIP Member banned Full Member

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    i used it for your post, and you handed the description on to others.
    its obvious from the quote i made - so u need to move on from this.


    explain how not answering one question makes someone a dumbass?

    btw this is your question, i'm not tramping through wiki for an hour on your behalf, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH -
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No.
     
  7. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Alexander Povetkin's opponent's sum win:loss ratio is:

    Total: 913 (wins): 255 (loss)

    Go ahead and find me one boxer other than Wladimir Klitschko who's opponents combined sum win:loss ratio is better than Povetkin's. Until then, that stat alone debunks your baseless claims in your first paragraph.

    The fact that Povetkin has knocked out more previously UN-KO'ed opponents than anybody else in the last 5 years except Wladimir Klitschko disproves any notion that he looks to survive or looks to avoid top quality opponents or fights opponents that have already been exposed.

    Joshua doesn't have the power to KO Povetkin in 12 rounds if he could barely even put a dent on Carlos Takam of all people who was Povetkin's KO victim before Joshua faced him. It'd take more than 20 rounds for Joshua to even stand a chance atKO Povetkin if he failed to KO Takam in 10.

    Wladimir Klitschko did try to KO Povetkin but failed because Povetkin's chin is too good. And Wladimir Klitschko punches with much greater power than Joshua does. Weak punching Joshua's punches are going to be less effective on Povetkin than they were on the inferior Carlos Takam.

    And it's Joshua that has been stopped multiple times and has been dropped more times than Povetkin. Despite being much bigger in size compared to Povetkin.

    Meanwhile, Povetkin = 0 stoppage losses in his amateur + pro career combined spanning 300+ bouts and only dropped by Wladimir Klitschko once LEGITIMATELY.

    Joshua is going to either look like a feather fist against Povetkin, trying his best to KO the smaller Povetkin like he did against the even weaker Takam to no avail or a weak glass about to be shattered by Povetkin's concussive KO punches.

    If Mihai Nistor can demolish Joshua with headgear on and with padded pillow gloves, then so can Povetkin with no headgear and less padded gloves. Wladimir Klitschko failed because he didn't let his hands go enough and let Joshua off the hook. If Povetkin has Joshua hurt, he will finish him Mike Perez style or Carlos Takam style.
     
  8. HerolGee

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    even galvatron disagrees with you, luis.

    This is the most telling moment since Morgan Freeman stood up at the end of Robin Hood movie and said to the anglosaxon villagers "look! i am a Moor and i fight with robin, so should you" and didnt get instantly lynched for it.
     
  9. Luis Fernando

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    Yes! Joshua has been stopped by Mihai Nistor and Povetkin has never been stopped in his amateur or pro career spanning 300+ bouts. And Povetkin is even tougher and more powerful than Takam. That's a fact!

    So ergo, Joshua's chances of knocking out Povetkin in 12 rounds is EXTREMELY low if he failed against an inferior Carlos Takam. Whilst the opposite is more likely to happen.
     
  10. Luis Fernando

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    So you still can't prove when I used the word 'dumb' to describe others? Okay! It just goes to show your own intelligence (or lack of) for your failure.

    You raised a topic and I asked you a question about that opic. Your inability to answer exposes your level of intelligence (or lack of).
     
  11. HerolGee

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    why
     
  12. GALVATRON

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    Joshua is to big first off for Povetkin who's best win is Takam. A short 255 pound Takam not the 235 pound Takam AJ fought.

    If this fight happens you can do all the meaningless stats you want in the end its Povetkin vs an improving Joshua and its a mismatch more than it is now.

    The only fact is Klitchko would always be a far danger to Joshua...Povetkin may look good against short guys but tall ones? Did you see his Hammer fight? :nonono
     
  13. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why what?

    You claimed I was calling others 'dumb' and you've failed to provide any evidence of me either directly writing the word 'dumb' in reference to those others or implying it in any way.

    You used the word 'dumb' as an assumption that I was calling others 'dumb', even though I was never implying to call those others dumb. Perhaps you may be exposing yourself as the 'dumb' one?
     
  14. Luis Fernando

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    Povetkin knocked out 6 foot 6 Johan Duhapas out cold unconscious with a single left hook. Remember that guy who Wilder couldn't even drop in 11 rounds? So the "Povetkin struggles against bigger or taller opponents" is a myth.

    Joshua's size didn't matter when he got brutalized by the even smaller sized Mihai Nistor compared to Povetkin. Povetkin is better as a boxer in terms of abilities and bigger than Nistor.

    Povetkin was smaller but knocked Takam out cold during Takam's prime. So if size was such a factor as you're claiming, why couldn't Joshua KO a washed up, faded and previously KO'ed version of Takam quicker, more impressively and more brutally than Povetkin did? Or maybe because his size doesn't give him much more benefits than Povetkin.

    Povetkin using his smaller size destroyed Takam more convincingly in Takam's prime than Joshua did using his bigger size against a washed up Takam.

    Ergo, Povetkin's smaller size > Joshua's big size.
     
  15. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Takams fight weight is around 240. Simple.


    Duhaupas is 6'5 and if you are suggesting he's evidence of defeating AJ you are on drugs. Duhaupus is good at being a punching bag first and foremost.

    He also took the Povetkin fight on a days notice so I don't know wtf you are on about? Lol

    Povetkin actual last relevant win was 3 years ago against Wach who got a bad stoppage and would have went 12. Wach was used as a sparring partner for AJ in preparation for Klitchko.

    It is now 2018 , Joshua on the rise and Povetkin not having a relevant fight in 3 years with punch power down after a PED bust....do the math.