If Hopkins had been at the top in the late 80s ?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Hopkins works his way up the ranks of the middle s ,just after Leonard has beaten Hagler .
    How's he doing against the big names of the era ?
    Tate
    Kalambay
    Nunn
    McCallum
    Hearns
    Barkley
    Duran
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  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bernhard Hopkins W UD 12 Frank Tate
    Sumbu Kalambay W SD 12 Bernard Hopkins
    Michael Nunn W UD 12 Bernard Hopkins
    Bernhard Hopkins W SD 12 Mike McCallum
    Thomas Hearns W UD 12 Bernard Hopkins
    Bernard Hopkins TKO 10 Iran Barkley
    Bernard Hopkins W UD `12 Roberto Duran

    Bernhard Hopkns W UD 12 Michael Watson
    Bernhard Hopkins TKO 10 Nigel Benn
    Bernard Hopkins TKO 9 Michale Olajide
    Bernard Hopkins W UD 12 Herol Graham
    Juan Roldan W SD 12 Bernard Hopkins
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Good post saad.well thought out .
    I agree with probably most of those , not sure I'd have Juan beating Hopkins ,but then again he did draw with Mercado early on .
    Hopkins was one of those guys that got better as he aged .
    I wouldn't argue with him losing to hearns or McCallum .can see Kalambay giving him fit's to .
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree that Nunn and Hearns would be tough opponents as would McCallum and Kalambay (all of those are more or less toss-ups imo), but don't think Roldan would problematic at all.
     
  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just think Roldan was unusually strong. Bernard was not as strong as Hagler or as slick as Hearns and Nunn

    If Bernard fought safety first, he could eak out a decision.

    But if he engages Roldan he might get smothered.
     
  6. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Hopkins would kick the ass of hearns at mw
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I’d pick Hopkins over Hearns but I think I agree with all the others. Bomber might give him a surprisingly difficult fight too though.
     
  8. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with most of these. Except I think McCallum beats Hopkins UD.

    Graham might beat him as well, in a fight that is hard to score.
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Bomber could give any middle a difficult fight .Hopkins has his hands full for certain .
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins was plenty strong in his prime.

    And he was slicker than Hearns. Not that a think Hopkins was terribly slick, but Hearns wasn't slick at all. Hearns's defense was his offense. His offense was more devastating than Hopkins's, but purely defensively Bernard was better.

    Nunn was definitely more of a natural talent, but he had less of a punch and not stellar stamina.

    Hopkins was never seriously hurt at MW (the KD:s against Mercado was flash KD:s), he was great at adapting and he never gave up. Can't see any way Roldan beats him.
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    No way could Hearns and Roldan outpoint Hopkins, Tommy was really sloppy at middle and so was Roldan.
     
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  12. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Hopkins would toy with Graham look how Kalambay beat him.
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The body shot Hopkins hit De La Hoya with was as hard as any shot Hagler ever threw and before he became more savvy he was a come forward destroyer who might have punched harder than Hagler at that point despite being easier to hit in the early 90`s.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Hopkins would absolutely flog the **** out of Roldan.
     
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    Tate - TKO 11
    Kalambay - Wins close decision
    Nunn - TKO 11
    McCallum - Wins close decision
    Hearns - TKO6
    Barkley - Decision or late TKO
    Duran - Comfortable decision with a lot of pressure on Duran late