David tua vs tommy Morrison

I asked you two questions 1.was Morrison consistent or not?2. Do you think Bentt ko's Tua . That's it!

If you don't want to answer fine.

 

I assumed that your questions were rhetorically due to your usual snobby attitude.

1. Morrison was pretty consistent. Except when he didn't train seriously (Bentt).
2. What does my opinion on Bentt vs Tua have to do with Tua vs Morrison?

You're so derailed you can't even stay on topic.

 

Okay you don't like me fine, I couldn't give a F F.
Where is the evidence Morrison didn't train for Bentt?
Still got your nose out of joint over the "Bum thing," where nobody agreed with you and I provided countless examples of respected boxing writers referred to Foster as a "praying mantis".Get over yourself. You should be used to being corrected by now!

 

Morrison didn't take the Bentt fight seriously do you deny this?

My nose was never out of joint you old hypocritical fat ass. You said disrespectful **** about Foster then tried acting like what you said couldn't possibly taken in offense. I don't care how many alts and nut suckers you have on here, the entire forum could agree with you and you'd still be wrong. You realize that you're saying that bullying is okay as long as boxing writers are doing it right? ****ing moron lmao.

How about this, go up to Lawrence Okolie and call him a praying mantis string bean looking mother****er then ask if he took offense to that.

 

Prove he didnt take him seriously.Provide a primary source that confirms it.
For your information.
Morrison weighed 226.75lbs when he fought Bentt.
He weighed226lbs when he fought Foreman.
He weighed 227lbs when he fought Lewis.
So,for the two most important fights of his life he was within a pound of what he weighed for Bennt!

Now explain that and ,while you are at it provide the evidence to back up your statement that he didn't train or take Bennt seriously,because his weight for the fight indicated he did!


I never said anything disrespectful about Bob Foster who happens to be my favourite 175pounder.
Nobody else agreed with you and I used a term frequently employed by respected writers such Bob Waters and Jack Fiske,Arthur Daley.
I never called him a mother ****er,or had any intention of disparaging him.
You just chose to have a spiteful little go at me because you don't like me ,well tough **** ,your petty little rant back fired on you because everyone agreed with me and disagreed with you!
I don't have any alts here and have always had the same user name.

You are a prize **** who can dish it out but can't take it back, go **** yourself, you pathetic saddo.Now that is disrespectful and totally meant!

 

Tua, too much chin and fire power for Morrison who after all was destroyed by Mercer and ktfo by Bentt.

 

I don't give a damn what Morrison weighed. He was a known steroid user and wouldn't have weighed much more than 200 without 'em! It's a fight of course he's going to cycle, doesn't mean he took it seriously.

[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/tommy-set-new-life-boxing-article-1.720175[/url]

"'Tommy wouldn't be up' for Bentt, Cayton argued, 'wouldn't take it seriously.'" - Bill Cayton Morrison's Manager.

Morrison was well known for partying more often than he trained. He certainly wasn't going to party any less now that he had a fight with a guy that he didn't expect to last more than a round or two.


[url]https://books.google.com/books?id=FFQaa6cUYnEC&pg=PT136&lpg=PT136&dq=tommy+morrison+didn't+take+Bentt+seriously&source=bl&ots=PIR7QfvaFV&sig=o2avFC1lhID432nAubydlRDRIZo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjl4JP1q4PZAhXH1IMKHbIpAKoQ6AEIVTAJ#v=onepage&q=tommy morrison didn't take Bentt seriously&f=false[/url]

"When unsubstantiated rumors that Morrison entered the ring with a hangover surfaced, it also seemed to diminish Bentt's accomplishment." This quote doesn't mean he was hungover necessarily but it gives us a picture of the type of shape that Morrison was in going into the fight. Clearly he didn't take his training seriously.

If you just look at weight to determine whether or not he trained properly then you have to be a complete moron.

I don't care who commonly uses the term that doesn't make it any less disrespectful. You're a fool for thinking that Bob Foster or any fighter would take more offense to being called a bum as opposed to a "String Bean Praying Mantis"

Can't take it back? The hell are you on about there? See this is where you delve back into your dizzy day dreams where your 100 year old biased newspaper articles are worth more than actual film footage.

 

Tua KO's Morrison early the chin makes the difference power was comparable but chins not so much

 

What good footage do we have of Jeffries but we have alot of newspapers that were more in support of Jeff than not to find the ones who called him of is much harder

 

Link wont work and its not a primary source anyway, just unsubstantiated supposition.
I never suggested that Morrison's weight tells the whole story, but clearly he had trained for the fight because he was within a pound of his optimum weight!

Morrison took steroids his whole career so how is this relevant to the Bentt fight?
I began collecting fight films in the 1960's I don't need to rely on articles for fights that are available on film.
Lou Viscusi who managed Bob Foster referred to Foster as a" Praying Mantis" in an interview in the Daily Mirror .Viscusi also managed Joe Brown the great lightweight champ Brown's nick name was" Old Bones", was that disrespectful too?

You don't actually believe I had any intention of being disrespectful to Foster ,you just used that as an excuse to have a spiteful and petty little go at me. That's fine just be up front about it .
You have a choice now, you can let this go or continue to be a small minded *****, either way I couldn't care less.

 

It's a toss-up really.

I think everyone's initial gut reaction is Tua.

But Oleg Maskaev's chin was worse than Tommy Morrison's. Oleg appeared to be outboxing Tua after 10 rounds when he was stopped in the 11th. Jeff Wooden wasn't Mr. Steelchin. He took Tua to a 10-round split decision. David Izon was ahead on the cards when he was stopped in the FINAL round. Hell, you could make the argument Tua needed a KO in the 10th to win his fight with Talmadge Griffis. Rahman really had no problems with him twice. (Rahman appeared to win the rematch like 8 rounds to 4. Terrible verdict.)

Tua scored quite a few VERY late TKOs to steal a win in fights he was losing on the cards. He also struggled to win decisions over very mediocre guys that world-class fighters shouldn't have a problem with. Tua could've easily had 10 or more losses instead of five, but his power saved him at the end.

If the fight goes the distance, Morrison wins a WIDE unanimous decision. And Morrison hit a lot harder than guys like Maskaev, Wooden, Izon and Griffis.

Tua was also wasted in about 20 seconds by Felix Savon, who weighed less than 201 pounds, in the amateurs. So he wasn't the "monster" chin of all "monster" chins.

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Morrison was knocked out THREE times after taking some monster shots. He wasn't a guy you could take out with one punch.

The only way Tua could win was by KO, whereas Morrison could win by decision or by stoppage. So I'd lean toward Morrison.

But either guy could win.

 

Tua was 18 years old when Savon stopped him.
Anyone ko Tua as a pro?

 

I can't see anything other than a tua ok win here I'm afraid and in a very early round

 

No. Rahman dropped him at the end of their rematch. Monte Barrett dropped him, too. But Tua didn't fight a lot of great finishers, except for Lennox Lewis, who hurt Tua early (in the fourth round, I believe) and Tua basically quit pushing and started to play it safe thereafter.

Morrison was an excellent finisher, so he had the ability to do so. But I took Morrison by decision.

It wasn't difficult to win rounds against Tua. He was behind in fights ALOT. People tend to forget that since he ended up scoring a number of late to last round stoppages.

 

Tua failed to solve Rahman twice, unless you count chining him long after the bell.

And it took Tua 11 and 12 rounds to solve Oleg and Izon.

That said, I think all three are better fighters than the Duke.

Tommy probably boxes well early but ultimately does something really stupid, gets caught with something big, rocked, and finished.