Why no more 180-199lb boxers with extraordinary punching power?

Well apparently Golovkin hits harder than Povetkin and hes only about 170-175

 

Briedas can wack ! Sparked that big lump Charr with one shot all 17st of him.

 

To be fair, fighters that size don't get to test their power against bigger men anymore due to the creation of the cruiser weight division.

To use a bit of triangle theory here, Marciano and Floyd Patterson are generally considered harder punchers than Ali but Ali hit hard enough to hurt George Foreman. By default, we can assume that Marciano and Patterson could hit hard enough to hurt George Foreman (landing the shot is another kettle of fish). Both Marciano and Patterson would be considered cruisers today. If we assume they hit hard enough to say hurt a 70's Foreman, then they may hit hard enough to theoretically hurt any modern 200+ pound heavy. That's just my take on it.

 

Contro is a SHW and he admitted I had him at least.
Although the term SHW might be loose in this case.

But we have yet to see your supposed mastery of the craft! In which you claim supremacy over the rest of us in, although you've never sparred in your life, but have promised over ten times that you would prove it through footage. Don't be so shy to give yourself some credit for consistency too.

 

So am I supposed to listen to the words of an actual sparring partner, or a big guy who can barely move a 50lb bag?

 

Gassiev would probably be the closest candidate.
Unless you have other options to offer?

Who do you think is not getting their fair praise today or yesterday compared to Langford, Dempsey, etc?

These guys were anomalies, rarities, you won't find then every decade.
Where is the Hearns of today?
Where is the Hagler of today?
Where is the Ali of today?

Are you also going to insinuate that classic fans are downplaying an Ali like talent today in favor of nostalgic legends?

 

Who then?
Should be names we know if they can punch as close to those guys.

You seem to be keeping your argument in a space of abstraction.
Supposedly there are these Dempsey and Langford hitters amongst us, that nobody knows or appreciates.
Who then? Sounds like ghost stories.

 

Because what you guys fail to realize is fighters dont just do training routines and go with a random number they see on the scale at the end of the week.

There are weight goals for each division because nobody wants their fighter to be at a disadvantage.

Contemporary:
175=180 to 185 in ring weight
199=210 to 215 in ring weight
200=220 to 240

Why would anyone want to come in at 190 at Cruiser today? They would be giving up 20 pounds at least nightly.

 

Hi Kev, I wonder if the fact that fighters in the old times used lighter gloves makes a big difference ?

I believe that a 190 pound guy using 6 oz horse hair padded gloves would have a much greater chance of hurting a larger opponent than someone using modern 10 oz gloves full of foam padding. If you watch say Ali vs Frazier 1 or 3 you will notice they used 8 oz gloves.

In Joe Louis day I believe the used 6 oz gloves. I think they changed it to 8 oz after WW2 but don't quote me on that.

The modern large, foam padded 10 oz gloves are actually a big advantage for the so called giants or super heavyweights. They also encourage fighters to earmuff - use a Winky Wright style high guard compared to fighters with smaller gloves who had to duck, slip and evade punches more.

Cheers.

 

Perry used to have everyone in the gym stop and watch him when he put the pedal to the medal. They'd all gather around slack jawed with awe, cheering him profusely upon his conclusion. One unsubstantiated rumour claimed he was showered with underwear when an all girl boxing/aerobics class arrived early one time.